I have an old HP pavilion 23 ALL IN ONE PC. It has 6gb of ram and a 64 bit os based processor. The processor is a: AMD E2 -1800 APU with Radeon had graphics 1.70 GHz. It’s running the latest windows 10.
All I want to do is use my pc for YouTube and average multitasking. I’d like the watch Youtube, open iTunes, search on chrome, do college work. I do NOT want to play games on it so no worries on not being able to game on it.
This PC has always struggled to do basic tasks which is a shame. I have good internet but sadly the pc struggles to load YouTube videos and iTunes. This pc lags a lot whenever it has to do a couple things at once. I’m not that big into computers but I researched this subject a lot and I’m interested in cracking open my pc and upgrading any parts and cheaply upgrading it. But nothing on google offers actual instructions and actual info on parts to upgrade on it. I saw a great vid on YouTube where a guy replaced the cpu in my exact pc and did so very easily but he didn’t say what it was upgraded to.
What can I actually do or replace to have this thing work slightly better. I’ve reinstalled windows. I wiped the memory. I followed some great tutorials on YouTube to speed up my pc and it actually helped a ton! But it’s not enough. I don’t wanna throw my pc away if I can simply upgrade the cpu. I know all in one pcs are bad for upgrading but all I want is to upgrade it slightly enough to where it can be used with out lagging.
How can I slightly upgrade my PC?
2018-10-19 3:55 pm
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2018-10-19 4:32 pm
Paint flames on your RAM
2018-10-19 7:40 pm
The E2-1800 is a BGA processor; it is not socketed, but soldered to the motherboard. I don't know what you watched, but there's no way you saw someone "easily" remove and replace this chip. Perhaps you saw a similar model with an FM1 processor socket.
The RAM is more than enough for YouTube. An SSD would help in some cases, but I doubt it'd be a massive improvement for you. The best I can recommend is to lower the resolution settings for YouTube.
The RAM is more than enough for YouTube. An SSD would help in some cases, but I doubt it'd be a massive improvement for you. The best I can recommend is to lower the resolution settings for YouTube.
2018-10-19 4:32 pm
You can install more RAM and install a SSD drive.
2018-10-23 7:53 am
Buy a new computer speed $800 be amazed what you can get sure going to be better than the hunk of junk you got now.
2018-10-20 10:43 am
A SSD is the most you could upgrade to. It would help with loading some programs but not with others.
The E2 processor in your system is a CPU and GPU that are integrated into one die package, which AMD calls an APU for marketing purposes. The E2-1800 is a Ball Grid Array CPU/APU which is soldered on to your system's motherboard which makes it non-removable. The E1 and E2 lines are possibly the worst series of processors to come out within this last decade, and it's performance levels are on par with processors from 2005. Usually you would find these E2 APU's in cheap laptops that were Black Friday door-buster specials. Laptop parts are also used in entry level All-In_one PC's. This would explain many of your woes.
Some people like to reference Passmark scores which is sometimes a good measuring stick to compare older forms of CPU architecture. Using Passmark as a reference really depends on the question that's being asked. For this question Passmark is useful.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+E2-1800+APU&id=251
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-E2-1800-APU-vs-AMD-Athlon-II-X2-250-vs-Intel-Pentium-Gold-G5400/251vs136vs3248
Your E2-1800 scores a 818
The Athlon II x2 250 which was an entry level CPU from 2009-2011 gets more than double the Passmark score. The Intel Pentium g5400 which is an entry level CPU from today more than blows both the Athlon and E2 out of the water.
Even if you were a magician with a solder gun and flux, if you managed to install a better BGA413 CPU, the BIOS on your system would probably not recognize it.
The reality of youtube is you do need a little bit of GPU power to load the videos, but you don't need a lot. Modern day Integrated graphics are more than capable of handling Youtube.
A SSD would help the system boot faster and it would help anytime the system is waiting on the hard drive. It wouldn't work for any kind of multitasking. 6gb of RAM is enough for the basic tasks like watching Youtube videos and surfing the web. Even 4gb of RAM is enough for those things.
Right now Solid State drives are the cheapest they've ever been. Last year a 250gb-256gb drive was right around $90-100 and a 500gb-512gb drive was around $150. Now you can find a 250gb drive for $40-60, a 500gb drive is around $85, and a 1tb SSD is closing in on $150. It wouldn't hurt to put a 250gb SSD into that system to see if you wouldn't be happy with those results.
If you aren't happy with those results then you would have to buy another laptop or desktop. If you do end up buying a new desktop, please get a regular sized mATX version. Making upgrades to an All-In_One is next to impossible and upgrading a SFF (Small Form Factor) is very difficult. If you live in a big city then you can always shop on Craigslist for a used PC that someone wants to offload. Sometimes you can find a good tower for $150 that's worthwhile but you'd also have to know what to look for in a PC. You will also find people on craigslist who think the $1500 PC they bought in 2010 is still worth $1200.
The E2 processor in your system is a CPU and GPU that are integrated into one die package, which AMD calls an APU for marketing purposes. The E2-1800 is a Ball Grid Array CPU/APU which is soldered on to your system's motherboard which makes it non-removable. The E1 and E2 lines are possibly the worst series of processors to come out within this last decade, and it's performance levels are on par with processors from 2005. Usually you would find these E2 APU's in cheap laptops that were Black Friday door-buster specials. Laptop parts are also used in entry level All-In_one PC's. This would explain many of your woes.
Some people like to reference Passmark scores which is sometimes a good measuring stick to compare older forms of CPU architecture. Using Passmark as a reference really depends on the question that's being asked. For this question Passmark is useful.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+E2-1800+APU&id=251
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-E2-1800-APU-vs-AMD-Athlon-II-X2-250-vs-Intel-Pentium-Gold-G5400/251vs136vs3248
Your E2-1800 scores a 818
The Athlon II x2 250 which was an entry level CPU from 2009-2011 gets more than double the Passmark score. The Intel Pentium g5400 which is an entry level CPU from today more than blows both the Athlon and E2 out of the water.
Even if you were a magician with a solder gun and flux, if you managed to install a better BGA413 CPU, the BIOS on your system would probably not recognize it.
The reality of youtube is you do need a little bit of GPU power to load the videos, but you don't need a lot. Modern day Integrated graphics are more than capable of handling Youtube.
A SSD would help the system boot faster and it would help anytime the system is waiting on the hard drive. It wouldn't work for any kind of multitasking. 6gb of RAM is enough for the basic tasks like watching Youtube videos and surfing the web. Even 4gb of RAM is enough for those things.
Right now Solid State drives are the cheapest they've ever been. Last year a 250gb-256gb drive was right around $90-100 and a 500gb-512gb drive was around $150. Now you can find a 250gb drive for $40-60, a 500gb drive is around $85, and a 1tb SSD is closing in on $150. It wouldn't hurt to put a 250gb SSD into that system to see if you wouldn't be happy with those results.
If you aren't happy with those results then you would have to buy another laptop or desktop. If you do end up buying a new desktop, please get a regular sized mATX version. Making upgrades to an All-In_One is next to impossible and upgrading a SFF (Small Form Factor) is very difficult. If you live in a big city then you can always shop on Craigslist for a used PC that someone wants to offload. Sometimes you can find a good tower for $150 that's worthwhile but you'd also have to know what to look for in a PC. You will also find people on craigslist who think the $1500 PC they bought in 2010 is still worth $1200.
2018-10-19 5:09 pm
I dont think its possible. The link below has a photo of the mainboard which looks like all components apart from RAM devices are all soldered in. sorry it is what it is and you have to put up with it. You MIGHT be able to fit a different mainboard that has a better cpu on it, but its probably not worth it. I suspect each board is a completely different shape and size and wont fit anyway.
2018-10-19 4:00 pm
Replace the Hard Drive with a Solid State Hard Drive. Reinstall Windows 10, Clean install. You will notice a big difference.
2018-11-09 5:24 pm
hardware is only one by the way not hongkongers
2018-10-21 7:47 am
I'll vote for the SSD too. They make a surprising difference in basic tasks like loading browsers, booting, etc.
2018-10-21 3:54 am
Hi. Well, since You have a good amount of RAM in the system and a 64bit - although slower processor, plus fairly fast internet, You're actually the perfect candidate to use a USB-based linux OS to do all the online stuff You want to do, then just go back to running the over-bloated Windows builtin for any touchscreen features or college=required software You need to use.
I HIGHLY recommend going to www.distrowatch.com to find Puppy linux info, then to www.pendriveapps.com to get either "Universal USB installer" or the "YUMI boot disk creator" from their "Live USB" category.
Take the few minutes necessary to figure out these tools, download the puppy linux ISO files to create a 64bit set of booting OS options, And enjoy the speed of an unbloated modern OS that can read anything You throw at it. I've used Puppy on as low as 1.3Ghz P4 chips, but on a genuine 64bit CPU with 6Gbs RAM it should run great.
G'Luck!!!
I HIGHLY recommend going to www.distrowatch.com to find Puppy linux info, then to www.pendriveapps.com to get either "Universal USB installer" or the "YUMI boot disk creator" from their "Live USB" category.
Take the few minutes necessary to figure out these tools, download the puppy linux ISO files to create a 64bit set of booting OS options, And enjoy the speed of an unbloated modern OS that can read anything You throw at it. I've used Puppy on as low as 1.3Ghz P4 chips, but on a genuine 64bit CPU with 6Gbs RAM it should run great.
G'Luck!!!
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