Whats the point of training in any fighting style?
2018-01-10 8:55 am
Since a untrained street fighter can beat a trained fighter with sheer confidence and aggression and power shots and skills that they experimented and it worked on their own. Whats the point of training? If that'd the case then all training arts out there are crap boxing wont work Kickboxing wont work muay thai wont work wrestling wont work navy seals/military combat wont work pretty much any style out there won't work because if all it takes for you to be is a tough street fighter and just get into alot of street fights and gain fight experience from that alone then training is pointless! All a person got to do is workout, eat right, stay in shape, hit a punching bag, fight in the street alot and they will be perfect ultimate fighters. Martial arts and combat training are crap then! Prime example boxing! How is boxing a training if anyone can fight like one? All I think boxing is a honing mechanism not a legit art or skill. Boxing is just two street fighters putting on gloves and going at it instead of bareknuckle. If you don't believe me why when we watch two untrained people fight say like on YouTube or someone you actually seen in your life fight why to they already know how to throw jab,cross,hooks,uppercuts,bob,weave,slip,dip,etc and they have never actually been properly taught these things in real life? All they did was imitate! Also since fighting is all about who got the best confidence out the two since fighting is more of a mental thing whats the point of training
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2018-01-15 11:18 am
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Your post is nonsense. You cannot win a fight just by confidence. Believing you can win does not make you more likely to win. If anything, just the opposite is true. Nothing, and I do mean nothing, makes you more likely to lose a fight than overconfidence. If you are overconfident, you underestimate your opponent and lose the fight.
2018-01-14 5:17 am
I was jumped by 5 guys and my jaw was broken in two places by two fast weighted sucker punches. When talking to the police at the hospital he asked if I studied any type of fighting. He could tell because of the fact that I didn't go to the ground with such a hard weighted sucker punches. He felt it would have been a lot different if I went to the ground. There's more to the whole story.. but you get the point.
2018-01-13 8:32 am
What you're saying is total nonsense. Most trained MMA fighters can "mop the floor" with untrained brawlers who are "twice their body weight." I don't know where you got the idea that trained fighters are no match for an angry brawler who's committed to winning a fight, but you are dead wrong in your assumption. Most unskilled brawlers lack the basic understanding of "conservation of energy", that most skilled, experienced fighters have mastered. So most brawlers will "wear themselves out" fighting an MMA fighter, if they don't get knocked out or choked out first.
2018-01-12 6:45 am
You are completely missing the point of martial arts. You can find it in the letter of Sokon Matsumura. No one in the right mind, will teach a hooligan any real skills.
2018-01-11 9:27 pm
Yes, some people are "natural" fighters and they fight very well. Training is designed to take ANY fighter and make them better. My brother was quite good at fighting, even without training, and I could never beat him at any "combative" competition. He had size, strength, and a natural skill set I didn't possess. But training equaled things out in a short period of time as it gave me a better understanding of physiology, kinetics, and the dynamics of "combat". It wasn't much longer, even though he was still bigger and stronger than me, before I was able to out maneuver him and use technical application to overcome "street smarts". Once he figured out he could no longer win he decided we shouldn't "fight" each other any more. Training accentuates an individuals skill set. It makes natural ability better, and in some cases can raise a person's moderate abilities to an exceptional level.
參考: 50+ years in martial arts; Working CMS (Combined Martial Systems) for the singular goal of street applicable self-defense and combative training. Japanese, combat (WW2) JiuJujutsu, Shotokan Karate; Western Boxing; Military hand-to-hand combat; free-style wrestling and grappling; backgrounds in Kempo Karate; Muay Thai; and Wing Chun. 27 years independent personal instructor in CMS defense/combat training. 12 years active training in Krav Maga, 10 years active and current instructor in Krav Maga
2018-01-11 6:17 am
It's fun, and better exercise (for me) than running on a treadmill.
2018-01-11 2:27 am
Let's start with why train a martial art at all when you can learn to fight by fighting and self training. Because you are reinventing the wheel. You can try to crave a round shape from a rock and try to make it work on a car, or just go a purchase a pre-made wheel for your car. One will take more financial investment, but you get faster and better results. You might argue that streeting fighting beats martial arts, but that is from the limited information that you have gathered. The cases you seen are the excepts not the rule.
The claim about boxing = street fighting. Wrong street fighting is imitating boxing or whatever other style is known to the person. I have seen plenty of fights where the attacker's go to wasn't automatically boxing and they looked completely at a loss as to what to do once they were in a fight. Also note that with rise of mma suddenly we are seeing more takedown attempts than before. They was not natural before mma, but it looks like it's just natural now that mma has become popular.
For a self trained fighter to overcome a martial artist, they will need to have trained a significant more time than the martial artist. I know because I was self training at one point and I have been on both sides of the fence.
The claim about boxing = street fighting. Wrong street fighting is imitating boxing or whatever other style is known to the person. I have seen plenty of fights where the attacker's go to wasn't automatically boxing and they looked completely at a loss as to what to do once they were in a fight. Also note that with rise of mma suddenly we are seeing more takedown attempts than before. They was not natural before mma, but it looks like it's just natural now that mma has become popular.
For a self trained fighter to overcome a martial artist, they will need to have trained a significant more time than the martial artist. I know because I was self training at one point and I have been on both sides of the fence.
2018-01-11 2:05 am
If you feel that way, then i suggest that there's no need for you to train in any fighting art.
2018-01-10 11:14 pm
What was Kimbo Slice's professional fighting record? If there is even a single loss (there are multiple), it disproves your point.
2018-01-10 6:45 pm
Mike Tyson would disagree with your statement
2018-01-10 8:57 am
To build muscle and become more skilled. While there are anomolies, usually the trained fighter will win.
2018-01-11 1:33 am
You definitely make a good point. Ask any cop who actually deals with 'bad guys' and they will confirm some points of what you have said. A lot of 'bad guys' grow up with violence and didn't have 'be nice, share, don't hit,' beat into them since toddlers like the average American, so violence isn't new to them but a part of their lives. Learning violence in a controlled environment is not the same than learning it when it is a very real threat. Growing up in the streets is training too and watching your back 24/7 will make you a very different person than someone who lives in a safe place.
I disagree with you though that they just learn by imitating. They did not just become a good fighters watching. More than likely they learned the hard way by having the tar beat out of them from an early age many times. Many grew up in abusive homes and learned to survive first from a very young age long before they learned how to fight back.
What is the point of training in martial arts? There are never any guarantees when training for anything that you will come not across something that was not part of your training. As a matter of fact, it's almost a guarantee that you will. All you can hope for is better your own chances. Isn't that why we are learning anything to make things better for us?
I disagree with you though that they just learn by imitating. They did not just become a good fighters watching. More than likely they learned the hard way by having the tar beat out of them from an early age many times. Many grew up in abusive homes and learned to survive first from a very young age long before they learned how to fight back.
What is the point of training in martial arts? There are never any guarantees when training for anything that you will come not across something that was not part of your training. As a matter of fact, it's almost a guarantee that you will. All you can hope for is better your own chances. Isn't that why we are learning anything to make things better for us?
2018-01-15 3:50 am
Your paragraph is false. A trained fighter will beat a street fighter any day. Especially because most likely the trained guy will be conditioned. The street won’t.
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2018-01-10 9:22 am
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