Curious about consealed and open carry. Any answers and opinions?
2017-02-09 11:54 am
First off, I'd like to state that I am in no way planning to use my handgun to inflict any type of harm to anyone unless absolutely necessary and as a last resort. There is no harm in asking questions, and I'd rather know before hand instead of thinking something is right and doing it, when it turns out it was wrong. My first thought was, is it okay to have hollow point rounds in my firearm to use for self defense? I have a 9mm, and just wanted to make sure it was okay to buy them and have them loaded. I live in the state of PA, If there is any concern about that. Also, what is the likelyhood that I will have to use it? If you can, id like to know your personal experience if you had to or not. Whether it be just pulling it out without firing, or both. Another question is, I know it is wrong to pull the firearm unless I am in immediate threat of death or bodily harm. But let's say I just went shopping and was walking back to my car and a stronger and bigger male was trying to stop me and get into an altercation or wanted my money and he does not have any weapon on him. Would it be okay to tell him to back off and place my hand on the grip of the pistol and show him that I have a firearm, but never actually pull it out to inflict harm, but show him that if he keeps pushing I have the capability of doing so. Like I said in the beginning of the question I have no intent of using it. I just would like to be prepared rather than not. Any help would be appreciated, thank you!
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2017-02-09 12:46 pm
I can't imagine why you would need hollow point rounds. There's really just no point. For one thing the chances of you actually needing to use your gun to defend yourself or someone else are really, really small. It could happen, it does happen but considering the number of people that are carrying guns, a very small percentage ever even pull the gun let alone actually firing it.
I've grown up with hunters and police officers so I know a lot of people who carry a gun. I only know of 2 times that any of them have actually pulled their gun during their personal life. One friend was sitting on the couch with his wife and kids when someone turned the doorknob of their apt. It was locked so they wiggled the knob and it really freaked him and his family out. While his wife called 911 he grabbed his gun. The police got there and found a drunk neighbor who couldn't remember which apt he lived in.
The other one was just a friend of a friend who was a cop. One night he went to a shopping center with his family. Just after they walked up to the stores they heard gunfire. He sent his family to a store across the street so they'd be safe, called 911 and then went in with his gun pulled. He actually ended up cornering the gunman and held him till the on-duty officers arrived. Of course no one who hadn't had police training should ever go after a gunman like that.
My biggest annoyance about some people who carry a gun is that so many don't take it as seriously as I think they should. IMO if you own a gun you should be training and practicing with it all the time. If you want to ever have a prayer of successfully using a gun against an attacker you need to practice until you can move without thinking.
Oh and your scenario of being robbed by a bigger, stronger man. You're hand to hand fighting skills had better be up to par or he would most likely just take your gun away from you and possibly end up using it on you. Showing a thief a gun is not necessarily going to scare him at all.
I've grown up with hunters and police officers so I know a lot of people who carry a gun. I only know of 2 times that any of them have actually pulled their gun during their personal life. One friend was sitting on the couch with his wife and kids when someone turned the doorknob of their apt. It was locked so they wiggled the knob and it really freaked him and his family out. While his wife called 911 he grabbed his gun. The police got there and found a drunk neighbor who couldn't remember which apt he lived in.
The other one was just a friend of a friend who was a cop. One night he went to a shopping center with his family. Just after they walked up to the stores they heard gunfire. He sent his family to a store across the street so they'd be safe, called 911 and then went in with his gun pulled. He actually ended up cornering the gunman and held him till the on-duty officers arrived. Of course no one who hadn't had police training should ever go after a gunman like that.
My biggest annoyance about some people who carry a gun is that so many don't take it as seriously as I think they should. IMO if you own a gun you should be training and practicing with it all the time. If you want to ever have a prayer of successfully using a gun against an attacker you need to practice until you can move without thinking.
Oh and your scenario of being robbed by a bigger, stronger man. You're hand to hand fighting skills had better be up to par or he would most likely just take your gun away from you and possibly end up using it on you. Showing a thief a gun is not necessarily going to scare him at all.
2017-02-09 12:08 pm
You need to check local laws about the hollow points. I use them but I am in a different state. Each state is different. As for the situation you mentioned, I prefer concealed carry. No one should know you have a weapon. If bad guys know you have a gun on you why not just shoot you first? Or come up behind you and stab you? Also if people know you have a gun in the house your asking for a break in theft. Go to a range and practice shooting until you get comfortable and good at it. Learn gun safety. Then get a concealed carry and tell no one. NEVER threaten with having a gun. No one should see it until the second you use it. I've seen people try what you said, touching the gun as a warning and get tackled before they could get it out. The bad guy took the gun. Either shoot to kill for survival or talk your way out of it.
2017-02-09 1:32 pm
CC laws vary by state, there are no laws regulating a type of ammunition, other than some forms like armor piercing or explosive tips are illegal in all states.
You can legally carry open in any state, but you can expect to get hassled in anti gun states like California.
12 states now permit constitutional carry (your call) and the rest require CCW permits to carry concealed.
Before you even use your weapon in defense there are a thousand things to consider in that 3/4 second before shooting.
Many of which can land you in very hot water. You need training with an approved CCW course and LOTS of practice to make these things automatic. Thinking about these things beforehand, most people make mistakes or wind up as victim.
I am all for constitutional rights to bear arms, but I do advocate doing so responsibly.
You can carry a .700 magnum if you like, I carry a long slide .45 with Hydrashok ammo, as lethal as it gets.
I can only suggest you go through a gun safety course and a CCW course so you know where you stand using a weapon for defense, then LOTS of practice at the range. Be a responsible gun owner.
I feel fortunate in never having the need lethal force for defense, but do spend some monthly time at the range.
One case ever in defending myself, I shot a rattlesnake in striking distance with my .22 and snake shot with my Colt woodsman.
That was 50 years ago.
You can legally carry open in any state, but you can expect to get hassled in anti gun states like California.
12 states now permit constitutional carry (your call) and the rest require CCW permits to carry concealed.
Before you even use your weapon in defense there are a thousand things to consider in that 3/4 second before shooting.
Many of which can land you in very hot water. You need training with an approved CCW course and LOTS of practice to make these things automatic. Thinking about these things beforehand, most people make mistakes or wind up as victim.
I am all for constitutional rights to bear arms, but I do advocate doing so responsibly.
You can carry a .700 magnum if you like, I carry a long slide .45 with Hydrashok ammo, as lethal as it gets.
I can only suggest you go through a gun safety course and a CCW course so you know where you stand using a weapon for defense, then LOTS of practice at the range. Be a responsible gun owner.
I feel fortunate in never having the need lethal force for defense, but do spend some monthly time at the range.
One case ever in defending myself, I shot a rattlesnake in striking distance with my .22 and snake shot with my Colt woodsman.
That was 50 years ago.
2017-02-10 12:30 am
Be very comfortable with the law in your state.
The CDC reported in a President-funded survey that '' Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008."
The CDC reported in a President-funded survey that '' Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008."
2017-02-09 11:58 am
You got a bit hard writing some parts of this, didn't you. It's okay, people with tiny body parts often have to find ways to compensate and you clearly hold dreams of stopping a bad man with your 9mm penis replacement. Here's the thing though buddy, the chances of you ever having to pull your firearm out for a legitimate reason are virtually zero. Sucks to be you.
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