I was just reading an article about how divers have found the HMS P311. However they will not raise it.
Im intrigued, it says "all 71 crew members are inside". Is this just a guess? no one has been inside or can see inside and it's still air tight, so is it just a presumption? Also, surely families would want the bodies back? would the bodies be preserved or just bones by now?
HMS P311 - Submarine found?
2016-10-18 12:40 pm
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2016-10-18 12:45 pm
I am sure by the condition of the vessel they can tell of anyone might have escaped.
As to removing the bodies. The tradition has always been to leave bodies encased in a sunken vessel to remain there especially if there is no compelling reason to do otherwise.
As to removing the bodies. The tradition has always been to leave bodies encased in a sunken vessel to remain there especially if there is no compelling reason to do otherwise.
2016-10-18 6:37 pm
Indeed...........it was found in my neck of the Woods, so to speak.........near Sardenga.
I was stationed for 2 years in La Maddalena, so know the area well-
The divers could tell from the visible damage, that she was clearly ripped open by a mine and probably went down quite quickly . If the watertight doors were sealed in time.....the crew or most of it, may have been sealed inside, in the airtight compartment. .....surviving the blast...........but still doomed to die a slow Death by asphixiation.
Usually wartime wrecks......are considered hallowed ground, and are not disturbed........especially if it's known hands went down with the ship-.
They are considered Memorials and off limits to scavengers .
I was stationed for 2 years in La Maddalena, so know the area well-
The divers could tell from the visible damage, that she was clearly ripped open by a mine and probably went down quite quickly . If the watertight doors were sealed in time.....the crew or most of it, may have been sealed inside, in the airtight compartment. .....surviving the blast...........but still doomed to die a slow Death by asphixiation.
Usually wartime wrecks......are considered hallowed ground, and are not disturbed........especially if it's known hands went down with the ship-.
They are considered Memorials and off limits to scavengers .
2016-10-18 1:26 pm
It is a war grave it will not be raised.
2016-10-19 3:29 am
Naval traditions are similar throughout the world, and seamen lost at sea or buried at sea are considered at rest.
I was six years-old and had just learned to read newspapers when the Squalus went down with all hands off Massachusetts. It fascinated me. A brilliant US Naval officer improvised equipment and saved them all.
http://www.newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/the-greatest-submarine-rescue-ever-2/
When the Kursk went down in 2001 with all hands, there was no way in the Russian navy to rescue them. The Royal Navy did save the crew of a Russian research submersible a year later.
Communications before and after sinking as well as the condition of the vessel are used for crew accounting. The crew or the Kursk continued radio contact long after she was sunk.
The USS Arizona is a national cemetery with many of her sailors still aboard. Some of those who survived have had their remains returned to her. They rest with their shipmates.
http://www.history.com/news/5-facts-about-pearl-harbor-and-the-uss-arizona
I was six years-old and had just learned to read newspapers when the Squalus went down with all hands off Massachusetts. It fascinated me. A brilliant US Naval officer improvised equipment and saved them all.
http://www.newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/the-greatest-submarine-rescue-ever-2/
When the Kursk went down in 2001 with all hands, there was no way in the Russian navy to rescue them. The Royal Navy did save the crew of a Russian research submersible a year later.
Communications before and after sinking as well as the condition of the vessel are used for crew accounting. The crew or the Kursk continued radio contact long after she was sunk.
The USS Arizona is a national cemetery with many of her sailors still aboard. Some of those who survived have had their remains returned to her. They rest with their shipmates.
http://www.history.com/news/5-facts-about-pearl-harbor-and-the-uss-arizona
2016-10-18 5:44 pm
nope, they will leave it where it is located
all that would be left is bones
all that would be left is bones
2016-10-18 12:43 pm
They sent a dolphin in to count the bodies which are preserved in the cold water and can be revived.
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