How we can have consciousness out of our perception??

I am told meditation can achieve that for us.

It's already outside, in the form of spirits of invisible elements. A human being during his/her life time is living with many spirits which have joined one by one since birth. They are knowledge, skills, feelings, emotions, interests and everything. Even thoughts are not your own. When you want to take a decision on a subject, one after another the spirits think and you just listen, choose or reject the ideas which they transmit to your mind through your brain in the form of thoughts. A human being is just a robot made of flesh, bones, tissues etc., and a toy of the spirits for their games.

The spirits or invisible elements which are living with you are ruling you according to your thoughts and wishes. If you think and wish that you must wake up at 6 am and wake up for an alarm sound only these invisible elements help you to do that. Spirits are always playing games and compete with each other. You may say that sometimes it's not happening. Above all there is one thing, it's fate. This fate is also determined by the spirits which are living with you. Sometimes some incidents occur against your thoughts and wishes because of this fate. I am writing this after closely observing the spirits' activities in my life.

We cannot.

Perception comes from consciousness, not the other way around. As you have probably noticed by now, there are many different levels of consciousness. From fresh, happy and wide awake, all the way to out cold with no perception of time and space. If there is any perception going on at all it is somewhere between those two points.
Each level of consciousness has it's own effect on perception to varying degree, but perception, no matter how skewed is still perception. Ther is no perception without analysis and there is no analysis without consciousness.

Im not sure we do. All I have is my perception. I perceive sights sounds and thoughts, foremost.

By thinking.

We cannot. Consciousness is not a result of perception, the mind or brain. It is because of consciousness these things arise and can be said to be in the first place. People commonly have a worldly "perception" of consciousness. Consciousness, in the sense of how it is originally describe from the Vedic/Hindu cultures, is a quality of awareness, and the capacity to 'know' that we know. The mind and perception can only, at best approximate, and only "know about" something. Here is one of the world's leading researchers speaking on the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWl5ZcIVclw

Can't

It maybe the other way round . We have to be conscious to perceive

That's like asking how you can have perception outside of perception or consciousness outside of consciousness. You cannot, all you can do is expand your perception / consciousness.

How we can have consciousness out of our perception??

~~~ Perhaps you can restate your question a bit more clearly?

We don't 'have' Consciousness!
There is One Universal Consciousness, of which we are unique features/Perspectives perceiving!

When we unlock consciousness from the brain and balance it with the whole body as an animal has naturally , our perception changes dramatically , we feel as one with the universe we perceive all .

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If you mean "outside" of perception then recall of dreams may qualify as these are internally generated.

If you mean how is conciousness generated from what we perceive then what we perceive only plays a very small (but important) part. There is also personality, subconciousness, memory, and much more. These all need to combine to activate conciousness. Some degree of perception still operates without conciousness, ever been woken up by a noise? It's very difficult to shut down perception and maintain conciousness

When consciousness is fully developed by the process of bhakti yoga, we can perceive things as they are. Our conciousness is polluted by the material atmotphere so need a cleancen process by practice and dettachment and complete meditation in the Supreme Brahman.

As EP says, perception is consciousness. Hume's "I think, therefore I am" is perhaps the most famous of those tests. Though if the "I" is a thinker of thoughts in one's head, and that turns out to be illusory, this phrase may amount to "Thoughts arise"

Milk from a stone or escape from a cage? Which "out of" do you mean?

The only reason we are conscious at all is because we have to be. If we didn't have to be none of us would be. Just living with each other makes us be more conscious of what we are doing. There is nothing like the presence of other humans beings to make us become conscious. There is nothing more dangerous than a human being. So just his or her presence requires a conscious activity or you may not survive them.

It is not difficult to get it (consciousness), if you strain your mind to some extent. Consciousness is awareness or self-recognition or self-knowledge, or self-realization.

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Consciousness is the state or quality of awareness, or, of being aware of an external object or something within oneself. It has been defined as: sentience, awareness, subjectivity, the ability to experience or to feel, wakefulness, having a sense of self-hood, and the executive control system of the mind. Despite the difficulty in definition, many philosophers believe that there is a broadly shared underlying intuition about what consciousness is. As Max Velmans and Susan Schneider wrote in The Blackwell Companion to Consciousness: "Anything that we are aware of at a given moment forms part of our consciousness, making conscious experience at once the most familiar and most mysterious aspect of our lives."

Western philosophers, since the time of Descartes and Locke, have struggled to comprehend the nature of consciousness and pin down its essential properties. Issues of concern in the philosophy of consciousness include whether the concept is fundamentally coherent; whether consciousness can ever be explained mechanistically; whether non-human consciousness exists and if so how can it be recognized; how consciousness relates to language; whether consciousness can be understood in a way that does not require a dualistic distinction between mental and physical states or properties; and whether it may ever be possible for computing machines like computers or robots to be conscious, a topic studied in the field of artificial intelligence.

Thanks to recent developments in technology, consciousness has become a significant topic of research in psychology, neuropsychology and neuroscience within the past few decades. The primary focus is on understanding what it means biologically and psychologically for information to be present in consciousness—that is, on determining the neural and psychological correlates of consciousness. The majority of experimental studies assess consciousness by asking human subjects for a verbal report of their experiences (e.g., "tell me if you notice anything when I do this"). Issues of interest include phenomena such as subliminal perception, blindsight, denial of impairment, and altered states of consciousness produced by alcohol and other drugs, or spiritual or meditative techniques.

In medicine, consciousness is assessed by observing a patient's arousal and responsiveness, and can be seen as a continuum of states ranging from full alertness and comprehension, through disorientation, delirium, loss of meaningful communication, and finally loss of movement in response to painful stimuli. Issues of practical concern include how the presence of consciousness can be assessed in severely ill, comatose, or anesthetized people, and how to treat conditions in which consciousness is impaired or disrupted.

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We have so many things our of our perception

If one understands "perception"= Latin "percipere" and "concipere," with the root "capere," to take, from PIE "to grasp," then like Alice in Wonderland's Humpty Dumpty, and Kant before that, 5-sense data flow = the stuff mortal/phenomenal consciousness is made of, constructed of, and "grasps." This uptake process squares with neurophysiology.

When you use the word "out," presumably you intend "transcending, beyond, out of the box," etc. What happens when 5-sense perception/sensibility is spiritualized, inspired beyond the phenomenal, is "consciousness transformed." This is Plato's "line" analogy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy_of_the_divided_line

When you use the word "we," presumably you are referencing the "us" of Kant's phenomenon-scientists, of whom Kant noted most if not all would not be interested in moving "out of [5-phenomenal-sense] data stream."

Putting Plato and Kant in perspective, one moves upward, a la "Jacob's ladder" of Angel Ideaness, from "darkness" to "less darkness" to "Light;" this is accomplished by the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave process of "enLightenment" (as contrasted with "mere" "Enlightenment," 18th century man's name for refocusing from God, divine Light, to man as "light-bearer").

To sum up: there is a continuum, with phase transitions, for both Plato and Kant. Generally, as per Plato and Kant, this must be sought. For "enLightenment," suggest these modern authors: Mark Prophet, "The Path of the Higher Self," Omraam Aivanhov, "Light Is a Living Spirit," and the old-time religion of Vipassana, and/or your favorite world-class faith tradition (Suhrawardi's "The Path of Illumination" comes to mind, and also Merrell-Wolff's "Philosophy of Consciousness without an Object").

one cannot, at least no one ever has. ever show in any way that that is possible.

if you have any objections i would be happy to discuss them.

Eat some peyote.

Consciousness with nothing to be conscious of is a contradiction, said Ayn Rand. That means that consciousness begins at the moment of the first perception. For the newborn it is the perception of its birth--not that it will or can remember it, of course. But after 9 months in the womb, it is suddenly thrust into the world through pain, and it cries at that perception.