which side has the best arguments for the abortion debate pro choice or pro life?

My side has the best arguments for the abortion debate.

Top 10 liberal reasons to have an abortion:

10. So we can have irresponsible unprotected sex without consequences.

9. Because it is better for the baby to be aborted then to live on welfare.

8. To provide stem cells for useless embryonic research.

7. So I don't have to tell my parents I'm pregnant again.

6. Because I want to "keep the government out of my bedroom", except to pay for my abortion.

5. So Planned Parenthood can sell the parts.

4. Because I left my condoms at school.

3. Because the Right to Life is not for everyone.

2. To save the life of the liberal mother.

1. In case the unviable tissue mass grows into a Republican.


Many liberals and Democrats say the Hyde Amendment that was used to stop federal funding of abortions, but this is not entirely true.

The Hyde Amendment is not a law it is a rider, and must be passed every year, and it can be easily overlooked to allow abortion funding.

Also the HA, only limits certain federal funds from being used for abortions, mostly for Medicaid. Federal funding for abortions does happen.

Funds are sent to Planned Parenthood and PP funds the abortions clinics.
Just ask Democrat Senator Bart Stupak, he was in a huge fight over the Affordable Health Care for America Act funding abortions in 2008. He refused to vote for the AHCA if abortion funding was included.
My side has the best arguments for the abortion debate.

The Stupak-Pitts Amendment was written and passed into law to absolutely prohibit federal abortion funding.
Then Obama got his vote, AHCA was passed, and obama issued an executive order to withdraw the Stupak-Pitts Amendment, and Rep. Stupak resigned.

Hyde Amendment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Amendment

Stupak-Pitts Amendment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupak-Pitts_Amendment

NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/nyc-more-black-babies-killed-abortion-born

If you're okay with killing a developing human, it doesn't matter what I think or feel, now does it?

It all depends on when you think it becomes a person. Murder is about killing a person, not human DNA.

Personally, I think that if life ends when your brain dies, then life begins when your brain becomes active. Of course, it's tough because different parts of your brain become active at different times. So what part of the brain makes you a person? That would be the cortex.

When you have continuous activity in the cortex -- meaning it stays on rather than turning off and on again -- that's when it might have some of the cognitive abilities that we associate with being a person (e.g. consciousness, self-awareness, identity). That's third trimester stuff, which is already illegal except to save the mother's life.

I don't buy into the whole "it's my body" argument, but I'm pro-choice based on what I know about the development of the human brain. But if my state tried to make elective third trimester abortions legal, I would be "pro life" in that case.

Pro-choice bc ironically our POV is the only one that actually IS pro-life

Abortion ends a human life. There is no doubt about it. This is scientifically proven. So you have to decide what is a good enough justification to allow one human to end the life of another human. The pro choice side states that convenience is a good enough justification to end human life. That, imo, is absolutely insane. I cannot believe that in 2016, with all the technology we have at our disposal, that abortion on demand is still legal.

It is beyond easy to not get pregnant nowadays. There is a concept under the law known as mitigating your damages. This means that you need to take all necessary actions to make sure your "damages" do not get worse than what was out of your control. If you are going to have sex and you don't want to carry another human inside of you, then mitigate your damages. If you choose not to do that sufficiently, when it is very easy to do so, then the consequences should not fall onto the life of another human being.

If you ignore your own responsibility and you now have another human inside of you, what are good enough justifications for one human to be able to end the life of another? Well, if her life is in danger, that's self defense. However, convenience, because you don't want to have a child? Well, that is NOT a good enough reason to end human life. Because the child might be poor or "unwanted" is that a good reason to end another human's life? Well should we go down to the orphanages and to anyone living in poverty and say that it is justifiable to end their lives? Would anyone make the assertion that a person's life is less valuable and not worth as much simply because they live in poverty?

Abortion on demand is insanity. We have legalized death of humans simply for convenience. The pro choice side tries to act like abortion isnt' ending the life of an individual human because they know the bottom line of abortion is disturbing, so they have to make it seem like you aren't actually killing another person. Well, sorry pro choice people, science is not on your side on this one. We know that abortion ends an individual human life. We also know that every human is just a clump of cells, so that argument is ridiculous. We know that the aborted human had an individual genetic code. We know that the aborted human had his/her human life cycle unnaturally ended by another person. If that is not one person ending another person's life, what is?

Are you ok with legalized death for convenience? Because that is what abortion boils down to.

Avril Lavigne always has and always will suck and that's a fact. Her hardcore fans deserve to suffer!

If you want to bring it down to basics, this is what the two arguments really stand at:

Pro-Life- You should do as I say because of MY morals, MY ideals, MY opinions! No abortions! Do what is best for ME! Only adoption and parenting!

Pro-Choice- You should do as you need to do based on YOUR ideals, YOUR situation, and YOUR opinions. Find a doctor and discuss what is best for YOU! This may mean abortion, or continuing the pregnancy and giving the resulting child up for adoption, or continuing pregnancy and raising the resulting child for yourself, or maybe even figuring something else out.

As for actual arguments.

Here are some pro-choice onces.

A.) Human rights.
1.) Bodily integrity already tells us that a fetus has no rights.
Bodily integrity is a right that every human person shares.
It's the right to our own body, organs, and fluids.
It states that no one else has a right to our body, organs, or fluids without consent.
Not even if it's a life or death situation.

It's why you can refuse to donate blood to the Red Cross, and though people will die without your donation, you won't be thrown in prison for refusing.

So if you're following pro-life logic.
A.) A pregnant person is refused basic human rights when they're pregnant.
B.) A fetus has rights no other person has. It has a right to enslave a person, and to use their body and their organs and to take their fluids without consent.

2.) Torture.
The U.N has already declared that denying a person a wanted abortion is TORTURE.
Especially if the only reasons you have to back it up are YOUR OPINIONS.

B.) Sex and pregnancy are not a crime.
No one cares what religious texts say about sin.
Sex isn't a crime.
Pregnancy can't be used as a form of punishment.
The end.

C.) How the heck is it responsibility to go through a pregnancy you don't want, can't care for, or that would lead to your ruin or even death?
Pretend we're talking about a child bringing home a puppy for a moment.
Now apply the reasons people use when they want an abortion.
They can't afford a pregnancy.
They will miss work or school.
They won't be able to provide for the children they already have.
They don't have the health to care for a child.
They are not ready for a pregnancy.
They are in a bad situation.

I'm pretty sure anyone would agree that these are all great reasons not to bring a puppy into your home.
Why does it change for a pregnancy?
Pregnancy is in a whole different league as far as responsibility goes in comparison to a puppy.
Yet somehow we think that a puppy deserves more consideration?

D.) Then there's the whole adoption fiasco.
Honestly it's the dumbest argument pro-lifers have.
1.) You can't adopt out a fetus. This should be beyond obvious. Adoption is an alternative to PARENTING, not abortion.
2.) Adoption isn't much of an alternative. Seriously, basic research pretty much nulls it out as an option for many people. Foster care is filled with children who will never be adopted as it is. Instances of neglect, abuse, and even murder happen all of the time as children slip through the cracks. If everyone who was going to get an abortion for the next year were to decide to just go the route of adoption, it would be the most horrible thing foster care had ever had to deal with.
3.) The only children being adopted as is aren't even children. They are infants. Healthy, cute, often white, often male, infants.

E.) Pro-choice has the backing of medicine, science, history, and common sense.
Medicine has already debunked pro-life's personified fetus.
A fetus does not suffer, or feel pain, and is not aware in the uterus. Especially before 20 weeks when the majority of abortions happen.
Abortion is SAFER than continuing a pregnancy and giving birth.
It does not cause infertility or depression at any rate greater than pregnancy.
It doesn't cause cancer.
Making abortion illegal doesn't lower the numbers.
Making abortion illegal doesn't save fetuses.
Parenting should be a sacrifice taken on willingly and with love. Not a punishment.

F.) Pro-choicers don't need to blackmail, emotionally manipulate, murder, or lie in order to prove our point.
Science, medicine, reality, history, and common sense does it for us.
All you really have to do is sit down and actually educate yourself.
Learn about pregnancy, and not just about fetal development.
Learn about pregnancy, and not just how a parent cares for their child.
Learn about people who seek abortions, and don't let moronic pro-lifers stereotype them into murderous selfish monsters.

When you learn the reality of what pregnancy and parenting are like, it becomes really hard to tell people who
you've never met what they should do with their bodies and their lives.

You can't argue with the moral statement that life is sacred, as it can't be proven either way. I happen to think abortion is a lousy method of birth control, but if my pregnancy had been caused by a rape, I'd be screaming to get rid of the fetus.
My biggest problem with pro-lifers is they have such a poor understanding of embryology. They think life begins when the egg is fertilized by the sperm, but that's just the beginning of cell division. Once that cluster of cells is mature enough (after two days or so), it begins to migrate to the fallopian tubes. It might stay in the fallopian tubes for a week before it even gets to the uterus, where it then must go through the process of attaching itself to the uterine wall. That's another lengthy process. During all this time, contraceptive drugs that flush out the egg or fertilized cell cluster do not kill a fetus. Opposition to birth control is just dumb.

Because the primary force behind the "pro life" movement came from conservative Christians.

This entire issue is not one of religion. It is one of how much government can control the choices a woman makes with her physician. Those who are "pro choice" believe that we have no right to interfere in these very personal decisions. Every culture and every religion has a different way to determine when a fertilized egg is viable. And Science disagrees on the issue.

As we have separation of church and state, the Supreme Court decided based on the Constitution that the decisions between a woman and her doctor should not be determined by government. She has a right to privacy in medical matters as do all Americans.

I haven't heard a good pro-choice argument that was able to go much deeper than "leave me alone." Extreme cases like rape or major health risk excepted, abortion is effectively just an expensive band-aid placed dramatically over a much deeper problem with our society that warrants much more extensive diagnosis and treatment. But we put the band-aid over it because it's easier in the moment, and puts the problem out of sight and out of mind.