At what point does a human become real?

For a wide variety of reasons, your question is without meaning. If you ask this question you need wording that could have an operational meaning. Most likely you will run afoul of the difference between cardinal and ordinal utility You are asking a question that requires cardinal utility but only ordinal utility has meaningful conceptualization. Further, you idea of a "point" is about as meaningless. Let me give you a reason. Let us assign a probability that some point in time is the true point. That point is "countable," that is you can count it. There is but one point. The total number of points in any interval of time is infinite and uncountable. The probability of any "point" being the true point is zero because any countable set of points which are a subset of an uncountable set must have zero "measure," which is a fancy way of saying zero probability. Even the question of the word "human" isn't well defined. Ninety percent of your cells are not human cells, they are bacteria, fungi and so on.

Your question cannot be solved because it is too sloppy to admit a solution, as are the follow up questions. On the other hand, an operationally valid question would probably be uninteresting. Most likely they have already been asked and answered as well by medicine and biology.

Questions like this are meaningless because they cannot be answered and a social problem because they consume human resources that could be used solving problems that are well formed and have utility to millions or even billions of people.

Just go fix the world.

First let me say I love your questions. I think this question would do better in the Philosophy category under Arts & Humanities instead, since this category is like the kiddy pool of philosophy, so to speak.


What one has to know is what was the first thought they ever thought? Where does that thought come from?

And another question equally as hard to answer can be compared to it so we can understand better why we can't answer that (now that we have always been thinking); what will be the absolute last thought? Where does that thought go? In an instant after that thought you cease to exist. No awareness that you ever even existed and thus no awareness of the last thought ever, so was it thought?

The troubling thing about 'nothingness' in philosophy is that we think of it as a 'thing', we understand it as 'nonexistent person X is nothing' when the reality is 'there aren't things that don't exist'. Nothingness is the lack of, the 'ness' is misleading but our only way of comprehending it as a concept.

The reason the big bang happened (or i assume you mean more broadly: why is there something and not nothing) I speculate is unanswerable. But just think, if it didn't happen you wouldn't notice it didn't. Like I said, there aren't things that don't exist (they cannot BE *verbal form*).

Existence can't be scientifically proven, since in order to do that you'd need something to transcend existence to observe the nature of existence, but anything transcending it would be part of this 'existence'. But it is safe to assume matter, energy, and spacetime exists because we interact with it, it builds our lives. If it is all virtual to some other type of world, it makes no difference, this is the world we live in, this is the reality we are real in, so this is real, on our level.

Consciousness, imo, is just the sum of all information being received by the brain, picked up by all functioning senses (the 5 senses, plus or minus).

When a viable embryo is made at conception, God individually crafts a compatible spirit/soul.

Consider the various meanings of the word "conception".

one might suppose that consciousness is the thing

questions of where or what that which we perceive is truly isnt necessarily relevant, just that we experience it

a few hours spent in a VR suite wouldnt be any less of an experience just because it isnt objectively real

that being said - I would reject the notion that we are simply projected into a false existence

curiously an incredibly large number of people "believe" that life is nothing more than a trial run or a test anyway - that the real action is to be had in an afterlife

its disturbing stuff when truly all the evidence and our senses tell us that this is one life, we get anymore