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Researchers have found a reason for the puzzling survival of soft tissue and collagen in dinosaur bones - the bones are younger than anyone ever guessed. Carbon-14 (C-14) dating of multiple samples of bone from 8 dinosaurs found in Texas, Alaska, Colorado, and Montana revealed that they are only 22,000 to 39,000 years old.
Members of the Paleochronology group presented their findings at the 2012 Western Pacific Geophysics Meeting in Singapore, August 13-17, a conference of the American Geophysical Union (AGU) and the Asia Oceania Geosciences Society (AOGS).
Since dinosaurs are thought to be over 65 million years old, the news is stunning - and more than some can tolerate. After the AOGS-AGU conference in Singapore, the abstract was removed from the conference website by two chairmen because they could not accept the findings. Unwilling to challenge the data openly, they erased the report from public view without a word to the authors. When the authors inquired, they received this letter:
Why won’t atheist evolutionary scientists test dinosaur bones for carbon 14?
Carbon 14 dating can be done only on ORGANIC material derived from living things.
Dinosaur bones tend to be heavily mineralized after the tens of, and hundreds of millions of years they have been in the earth and are therefor not suitable for Carbon 14 dating. Furthermore, during that long period, some of the minerals entering the dinosaur bones can be of radioactive elements that would throw off the reading.
The mammals you mentioned lived relatively recently, only a few thousands of years ago, and their bones tend not to be heavily mineralized, so their bones contain enough organic material to be carbon 14 dated.
And your argument about measuring the stratosphere is stupid and has no bearing on anything.
Dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago(most of them, anyway), so carbon 14 dating will not work. Instead, they use other dating methods.
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Buddy is completely correct, and his is not circular reasoning, since dinosaur bones were NOT assumed to be millions of years old. A variety of independent radiometric tests carried out on surrounding rock layers using isotopes of elements with long half-lives are used. That these tests correlate, determines the age.
It was also because 17th century-18th century Christian geologists found the Earth to be much older than it was that some of them proposed a bibical Gap Theory to reconcile the contradictions between what they found and what they believed in their Bible.
That there are still people who cling to a Biblical story rehashed out of much older Mesopotamian myths, is a testament to nothing more than their own refusal to accept what's staring them in the face.
Oh, and of course Jack Horner would have refused, because as has already been explained to you, Carbon-14 dating would not have bloody worked on those timescales. It's like me asking you to measure the height of the stratosphere using a six-inch ruler.
Why is everyone so HUNG UP over dinosaurs? There were on earth, they all died in the big flood, and now there are none. Finis.
Scientists can measure the present-day rate of radioactive carbon formation but have no way of measuring carbon concentrations in the distant past.
So whether they use the radiocarbon method for dating fossils or other methods, such as employing radioactive potassium, uranium, or thorium, for dating rocks, scientists are unable to establish the original levels of those elements through ages of time. Thus, professor of metallurgy Melvin A. Cook observes: “One may only guess these concentrations [of radioactive materials], and the age results thus obtained can be no better than this guess.” That would especially be so when we consider that the Flood of Noah’s day over 4,300 years ago brought enormous changes in the atmosphere and on earth.
Dartmouth College geologists Charles Officer and Charles Drake further add doubt to the accuracy of radioactive dating. They state: “We conclude that iridium and other associated elements were not deposited instantaneously . . . but rather that there was an intense and variable influx of these constituents during a relatively short geologic time interval on the order of 10,000 to 100,000 years.” They argue that the breakup and movement of the continents disrupted the entire globe, causing volcanic eruptions, blocking sunlight and fouling the atmosphere. Certainly, such disruptive events could change radioactivity levels, thus distorting results from modern-day radioactive clocks.
If the truth be known there is no way of an accurate way of texting the age of anything after 5000 years, this is because no one knows the barometric pressure of this earth pre flood. Some scientist say it could be 5 times or more than it is today. Many use barometric pressure chambers to slow the rate of cancer and it's being researched as a way to cure many different diseases.
So any carbon dating is inaccurate after 5000 years, as far as how old this earth is is anybody's guess, it could be millions of years or it could be many thousands of years.
Evolution had a death blow when dna was discovered, dna proved that evolution is false no matter how it's presented or argued.And when it's shown that carbon dating is guess work after 5000 years all but the die hard will dismiss evolution for what it is, a Satan induced belief to distort God's word.
We are not to underestimate the devil, I'm sure he has more fictitious beliefs in store for us, the scriptures says he would have mankind believe he's the creator of man!
First, carbon 14 dating is not accurate.
Second, some dinosaurs died just a few hundred years ago.
In England during the late 1700s they had a Dragon Chronicle that told of the plague upon farmers that Dragons caused. It is part of history, yet we don't teach it at all. In Arizona they found a Roman sword with a dinosaur etched on it. Look that the Viking ships. Too many rock drawings, figurines, etc.
because the soft tissue and blood cells get in the way
Because carbon dating is inaccurate where as radioisotope dating is totally accurate.
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this subject is not important. but you claim that you are at my service when you leave no mail address for feed back?
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C14 dating only works back to about 50-60,000 years ago, and, on organic material. Dinosaur fossils are at least 65 million years ago, and, have long since turned to rock. So, Carbon dating won't work. Period.
They do use it for more recent bones, e.g., mammoths in the Yukon, and bison, and all sorts of other things. Ice Age bones are fine for carbon testing.
Carbon 14 is only useful for dating things a few thousand years in the past. I'm sure some scientist tried that initially and soon realized that it wasn't going to work.
Because they have intelligence. They know that it would be useless. Carbon 14 dating is only good for 50,000 years or less. Beyond that they have several other dating methods which they use. But it takes intelligence to know something beyond simple fundie regurgitations.
Idiot fundie.
Why can't Theistic Creationists provide any proof of a belief as one should not ask of others that which they can not produce themselves!
Carbon 14 cannot measure things that are over 60000 years old, that is that after about 60000 years, there is virtually no C14 left. Dinosaurs bones are dated using different isotopes because they are over 65 million years, which is a bit more complicated because they are based on isotopes that are not as abundant as Carbon 14 inside living organism (although they decay slower).
However, in some cases, C14 from the environment (since C14 is constantly being produced by cosmic rays releasing neutrons that alter nitrogen in the atmosphere) can leach in the ground if it is made of some specific rocks, and contaminate fossils making them look a lot younger than they are.
Seems to me you are trying very hard to discredit well proven radio-dating methods by quoting very specific cases that were subject to such contamination, and for that you are using poor knowledge and even worse understanding. All you have managed to do is demonstrate that you are not a valid interlocutor as you show both bias and a lack of knowledge.
