My Church ministry and my leader need help please?

2013-03-03 1:17 am
ok I got into an argument with my leader and cannot open my group and the reason why is because I finally told him that Joel Osteen is a false prophet of God and note mainly because he has gone against the word of God preaching only motivation and saying that religion like mormons is true and that their is no way to tell whether or not their is only one way then at the same time saying that he is(Jesus) while Jesus preached Gods word,not only that he preached more about hell then heaven and so forth,what im getting to is that I could not just stand their and let other people be deceived by this man,and espically my leader and so many other people who listhen more to the pastor then the word of God like come on!however what I am asking is that now,while I cannot just say I am perfect I notice that my leader kept talking about Osteens fruit yes it is large but you cant just go by that,even the devil disguises himself as an angel of light,now because I want someone to help me I want to put every detail my leader said dont judge with hypocrisy and to stop critisizing him when I was trying to expose him like we should because before he came I was about to pray because I didnt do it anymore for 2-3 weeks also I told him right before the argument at the time I felt almost no desire until I saw a preacher Paul Washer talk about praying and I felt like I have to do this now but my leader came and used it against me but I told him this now even when I did pray to God I knew that Joel was wrong but I noticed that so many leaders at my church do listhen to this man read what he says but i know its wrong in Gods word from the Bible,afterwards he says I need another Exodus which is a 3 day retreat to encounter God at my Church (it is 180 right now to pay for the buses and food and henceforth)and I have already went to one now after im almost done and went to my launch another thing cost lower amount and did my leadership class's he said I should go again I said what I need to do is go to Christ right now yes I was being a hypocrite yes since i havent prayed and ive been telling myself that I kept my Gods commands and i wanted to pray I couldnt because their was a desire to not want God and I felt fake and embassed to go to God I was tired of going to Church letting some of my school grades go down so I could go on (note this is when I went to class in church on modays right now no)monday tuesday,wenesday,friday and sunday for the whole day and i got exausted and my mom got mad at me for going to much to Church she left and turned mormon but I would not let her and told her the Gospel even when she got mad at me I continued for months now she goes to a church that is Christian and I am happy she goes because she is growing now,and now I dont know my leader says why dont you listhen to me since we are suppose to submit in Hebrew if im not mistaken,but if what I was trying to do was tell the truth am I wrong for that?and please help, I am not going to leave my church God helped me increase in it but most of the times I felt nothing in church,until one day I did but at my launch when I finally felt an encounter because at the time everyone except a couple of people 2 actually stayed by my side while everyone else didnt want to be by me and help me or anything but because of it I went to God and he touched me made me feel so much better I was at peace and felt God but now everyone is rebuking me for telling the truth but right now I believe if I am telling the truth but everyone thinks im going crazy because of it and im talking bad about osteen and everything but what i say comes from the Bible am I wrong for this telling it to people who listhen to this man? if you want to dicuss i,ll send mail to you please help if need correction as well and also I was willing to throw everything i've worked for spent money on to be a leader at my church and open a group just to telll the truth(but I would like to hear if you would want to say something) (I am 14 still in high school)

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2013-03-03 1:34 am
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Joel Osteen is a false teacher and/or prophet. He says things to bring in the biggest crowd, he says there are many ways to God. He is more of a motivational consultant then anything else. He is very simular to Oprah who has stated the same things.

as for yourself you should rely on the scriptures and not necessarly a feeling you might get from a group of people. you should be going to a church that has bible study of the full bible every verse. a church that has it's doctrines in line with the scriptures.

but at 14 yrs old I dont see how kids would be very motivated for church. You mother sounds like the wind - blowing here and then there and not very solid on what she believes.

ultimatly you should have a good understanding of both sides of any church and their doctines. google and read up on both sides of every issue and understand why both sides look at it the way they do. Then you can have no mistakes in your beliefs.
2013-03-03 1:25 am
Wow, that is one big old wall of text.

Incomprehensible, hon. Try paragraphs and a little more punctuation.
2016-10-28 11:24 pm
He could have been asked to leave his place, yet no longer the church itself, except he replaced into unrepentent and pleased with what he did. Leaders are held to a a strategies better familiar than others. Paul interior the NT says that leaders would be decide via a harsher degree. If a frontrunner can't stay as much as the abilities of his/her place, alongside with ethical habit, he could step down, a minimum of temporarily. (If everybody thinks of bill Clinton at this factor, i will remind you that his replaced into an elected secular submit, no longer an appointed non secular submit.) whether, we are all sinners, and all of us fall, some people heavily. if your church is interior the habit of expelling actually everyone who commits a severe sin, ultimately they're going to could expel actually everyone. (Now i'm thinking of Newt Gingrich, who, because it became out, prosecuted Clinton mutually as he, Gingrich, himself replaced into committing adultery! Romans 2 warns against condemning others while you're doing an identical concern your self. Sorry to get all political on you.) If that Singles Ministry chief replaced into sorry for what he did, he wouldn't have been thrown out of the church--in simple terms out of his management place. Peter denied Jesus, yet Jesus did no longer throw him out. Peter replaced into sorry, and Jesus restored him. Why no longer proportion what I suggested with your pastor?
2013-03-03 1:25 am
Dear girl the bible is very clear if you have a problem with someone or even they you.....you are supposed to leave your gift at the alter and go and sort things out with them so that's your leader and your pastor....In regards to Joel Olsteen if you think he is in error tell him maybe you can't se him in person write him a letter but don't accuse him satan is the accuser of the brethren. Ask him about some of your concerns ask if he believes such and such or has said/preached such and such. We are not supposed to be gossips slanderers or to judge unrighteously. If we see our brother in sin we should seek to restore him cover his error if we can like Jesus covered in fact removed our sin and stand alongside those who have been deceived. Let love be your aim and motivation ask yourself am I moving in love and grace?


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