Does God play dice? ....for sex determination?

2011-08-12 2:00 pm
Are we saying that there is 50% chance for a zygote formed to be male or female.

Does the difference of presence of X and Y chromosome in sperms affect their activity.

I have heard that in some cats the males are born hardly (rarely).

Also in the Animal Planet 's THE MOST EXTREME episodes I have watched a discussion that, once, after many many years, the ratio of females born will be much greater than males.

(Don't think I am not an atheist. I am definitely not against the Mendels, the Einsteins nor the Bohrs ( I 100% completely support them), but may be against those who believe because they doesn't like to think and doesn't really understand what they have said)
Is God really throwing dice for determining sex of an individual.

So the question is simple, is the sex determinant ratio exactly 50 : 50?
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___________ Thank you gardengallivant. You have pointed out a good stuff. But, unfortunately the answer still keeps some thing left unclear. Is the probability of having a male or female in organisms which the people say is 1:1 exactly 1:1. I am talking about the probability in organism like humans, cows, fawns etc. Please help me on it too. I know you can help. Thank you and I am very grateful to you. Now I have got another question to be asked here. Isn't such mating in mites harmful for the species, because it doesn't contribute anything to the evolution like common sexual reproduction and further it is worse than asexual because now the diversity in genes are decreasing from generation to generation. I have put it forward as a question: http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110814100900AAifOtF Now you worth a zillion stars! Thank you very much _____________________

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2011-08-12 2:13 pm
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Based on probability theory, it is 50:50.

However biological science says, it depends on various factors:
- How motile are your sperms carrying X chromosome and compared to your Y chromosome.
- In the vaginal canal how acidity it is. Which sperm can survive to reach the ovum.

IMHO, it is not God but the Guy himself is responsible. For average people, it easier to make God or the woman responsible for this.
2011-08-12 10:09 pm
No, the M:F birth ratio is variable.

Sperm with X and Y chromosomes have different average masses and may be affected by environmental conditions in the canal for that and other reasons. The effect of any deviation from the ratio of 50:50 at birth on demographics of a population is questionable, since once boys and girls are born, there are all sorts of other, more relevant effects on survival that may be affected by sex.
2011-08-13 6:14 am
"So the question is simple, is the sex determinant ratio exactly 50 : 50?"

No, there are known cases when the population's gender ratios are not 50:50. When is it an advantage not to have a 1:1 gender ratio?
Adactylidium mites are born pregnant with their eggs already fertilized. The female matures then her fertilized eggs hatch inside her. Her offspring ratio is a single male to all the females. Since there is no option or mate selection one male is sufficient to ensure optimal reproductive success. The male fertilizes his siblings, the mother dies, and the female young emerge but the male has completed his job and does not emerge. Group selection favors female biased gender ratios for greater reproductive efficiency but it only works when mating is not random.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adactylidium


This indicates there are selective pressures on a population to have a relatively balanced gender ratio based on the populations habitat.

If there were no selective pressures then females who bore mostly female offspring would have a huge advantage in ensuring their genetic survival. This trait for bearing more female offspring would continue to spread until males were in too short a supply to cover all the females in each generation.

At this point the rare males are all reproducing but not all the females are. Now the benefit is with the females that produce more male offspring. At this point alleles for bearing male offspring would spread in the population. The population stays in equilibrium because the reproductive benefit of producing male and female offspring is roughly equal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher%27s_principle
'An Experimental Demonstration of Fisher's Principle: Evolution of Sexual Proportion by Natural Selection '
http://www.genetics.org/cgi/content/full/148/2/719

Edit-
The mites live on a single thrips egg. Their habitat varies very little. There is much less selective pressure on the mite populations so a small range of genetic variation is sufficient in a stable, consistent environment. They do have sexual reproduction to mix the array of new infidelities that arise in every individual in every generation. DNA replication introduces a level of new alleles for sufficient genetic variation here for the degree of change they have faced in past generations. However with fewer males the population can increase much more rapidly that when the females spend resources producing half the population as males.


Aphids alternate between being asexual and being sexually reproductive.
Stable environment => parthenogenesis => rapid population increase with genetic fidelity
Changeable environment => sexual reproduction => genetic variation with winged emigrants

While the environment continues stable the aphids skip the genetic recombination of sexual reproduction and the effort of producing males that cannot increase the population. Only when the aphids must face a variable environment do they forgo rapid population increases for sexual recombination with males. Variety is what enables the species to have some members in the next population able to use a different environment than their parent's occupied.

When the aphid's preferred soft plant tissue is plentiful, aphids reproduce in the wingless, asexual stage. In this stage they reproduce with a more rapid increase in population since all offspring can produce more offspring. In this way a single aphid, finding a good food source, can produce millions or billions of descendants well suited to consuming this food source.

When food starts to become scarce they switch to the winged sexual life cycle stage in order to ensure the genes are recombined so there is more genetic variation in the dispersing generation. Of those that emigrate and locate a new food source that is slightly different there will be a few with a better greater fit to the new conditions. All it takes is one or two to find a new suitable food supply within the range of their genetic variation for the line to continue.

‘Family Planning Aphid Style’
http://indianapublicmedia.org/amomentofscience/family-planning-aphid-style/

Terrestrial animals, the metazoan vertebrates face some of the most unstable environments possible. This selective pressure comes from short generations of microbes that constantly adapt to our immune responses and from the ecological interactions as well as the abiotic conditions. Thus the vertebrates have balance gender ratios for maximal recombination despite the limitation it places on population growth rates. Further vertebrates have evolved the highly mutable adaptive immune response so metazoans can directly compete with the bacterial pathogen's rapid rate of genetic change.
參考: Modulation of mutation rates in bacteria – stable conditions select strains with low mutation rates, unstable select moderately high rates stabilizing the shift by removing the strains with the highest rates of mutation as well as the lowest. http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2009/12/balancing-rapid-evolution-and-high-mutation.ars 'Mutation rates: When the going gets tough, beneficial mutations get going' http://www.nature.com/hdy/journal/v99/n4/full/6801042a.html
2011-08-15 1:59 am
"Isn't such mating in mites harmful for the species, because it doesn't contribute anything to the evolution like common sexual reproduction "

Sexual reproduction is not required for evolution. Prokaryotes don't reproduce sexually, but we have observed them evolve. We have bacteria that eats nylon.


The idea that males and females will occur at ratio of 50:50 is a model. It works well when sex determination is driven by a distinct set of 2 sex chromosomes. Study the reproduction of bees and you will see a completely different model. Males are haploid. The only time male bees are formed is when eggs go unfertilized. In other organisms sex is determined by gene expression. In Alligators for instance, the ration of males to females in a brood is determined by environmental factors like water temperature.
2011-08-12 9:31 pm
Of course not ! That's just silly! He flips a coin.
2011-08-19 8:27 pm
first ans is.. its just a model. u hav studied probability, do you think your calculated values will match the actual one. nupp. then wats the point of asking it?

and second, everything in this universe is useful.. how do you know it doesnt contribute to the evolution. bacterial matings an ours are very different but u cant deny that ours type is evolved from theirs only.
2011-08-12 9:08 pm
Definitly its scientificly true.
2011-08-12 9:31 pm
It's a stupid question.
2011-08-12 9:27 pm
How can one named god PLAY dice if he never existed anyway? So it's hard for me to answer this question


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