菲律賓的"特種部隊"

2010-08-24 6:50 am
相信大家有看今日香港旅遊巴被脅持事件!
大家從直播中看到他們的行動:裝備.戰略.效率等等
有咩意見??
更新1:

我覺得佢地唔應該派果D"廢柴部隊"..派隊消防員仲好..門都唔識開...佢地支槍都冇用過...成班蛋散係車尾都唔知做物春..搞下搞下有D煙出黎...燒野食咩...好心佢地請特種部隊..都請D識開門嫁..唔該...我睇到幾緊張...飯都凍埋..結果班蛋散搞左幾耐先得...仲要係唔關佢地事...妖...廢柴!!!!!! 這件事情,讓我們要珍惜眼前人!!!!!! 珍惜眼前擁有的一切,懂得珍惜和感恩*

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搞甘耐,飛虎隊都空運過去拉

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給 RTY1941 他們是"特種部隊"並不是民兵,受過專業訓練,有責任保護市民,做得特種部隊就不能貪生怕死,而且有很多裝備都能防止槍手伏擊:例如閃光彈.防彈盾牌,明顯他們的行動.裝備.戰略.效率等等都不是特種部隊應有的.你說 如果死衝上車,會做成部隊傷亡 ,記着,受過專業訓練的特種部隊是不會死衝上車,而是有戰略的上車,,

回答 (9)

2010-08-26 2:11 am
✔ 最佳答案
呢班菲律賓垃圾簡直不知所謂,行事魯莽荒謬到人神共憤!小弟從來都未聽過有任何一支特種部隊竟然要用兩個鐘拯救人質!呢班垃圾無裝備、無訓練、無計劃、無預案、無勇氣、無機智,完全丟晒全球特種部隊既面。

拯救人質兵貴神速。名震天下既德國GSG9於1977年拯救人質時,只用7分鐘就將有人質安全救出,而且擊殺三個劫機犯及制服另外四個。但菲律賓呢班垃圾做錯晒所有野。點解爆門唔用定向炸藥﹖無炸藥點解唔用撞門錘或用消防員當用既電鋸或油壓剪﹖兇徒多次現身車門及車窗,竟然長達9個鐘都無神槍手將之擊倒!仲有班垃圾警察用既係咩武器﹖竟然只係軟弱無力既9mm手槍!連盾牌、衝鋒槍等基本裝備都欠奉,成班人都係垃圾!仲有呢班廢柴完全無訓練,佢地對拯救人質無知到連電視電影中常見既情節都唔識,既無計劃,又無偵察情報,胡亂衝入旅遊巴與匪徒博一舖,咁樣有咩理由唔死得人多!總之我地香港有7位同胞遇害枉死,實為全港之痛,願所有香港人為死難者默哀。亦希望各位以後要認清麻煩既是非之地,千萬不可再以身犯險。
2010-09-02 2:40 am
我想問樓主,如果你係想令人討論的,為什麼不去FORUM,要係知識到問呢﹖
2010-08-31 2:01 am
LeeTsun wang你好過份,平時copy人地答案已經夠衰,仲要係d咁既話題做埋d咁既衰野,你有病就去睇醫生啦,唔好將個病惡化到好似個槍手做埋d衰野至好
2010-08-25 9:22 pm
本文章並非認為菲律賓部隊做對

D人只會話菲律賓部隊冇種,為甚麼唔衝上車,理由好簡單,一支部隊也要保護自己隊員,如果死衝上車,會做成部隊傷亡,槍手用ge唔係BB玩ge手槍,係M16突擊步槍,被打中一下都唔係咩輕傷,再加上的椅子和人,槍手可容易地作出伏擊,易菲律賓部隊要保護隊員和人質,根本開不了槍,這個世界上系沒人唔怕死ge,你無事的時後就可能唔怕,當你真正要面對的時後就會害怕.所以那些只會話人冇種,又唔知真實情況的人,應該最先衝上車.

2010-09-01 18:32:38 補充:
專業訓練? 呢班咁ge野根本就沒專業訓練,當然唔得la,如果衝上車有一個人倒下,你告訴我,點救他?不要忙記,這是旅遊巴,空間有限,連目標都找不到,打屁?人家用M16連射已經搞定四五個人,有家菲律賓SWAT係無裝備,又無專業訓練,衝上去死更多人,情況會更不好啦
2010-08-25 2:22 am
佢個一班神槍手,打左四槍先中個太,入後門個時
搵個肥的入去,有冇搞錯!!仲有呀,佢D裝備有冇廢
左D呀,用步槍???冇SMG,要我比你嗎,破門用鎚,
good!!!鎚都同我打入去= =,用散彈la= =,比個服你!!!!!!!!
一個字:廢!!!!!!!!!!
2010-08-24 8:59 am
我真係頂佢班垃圾,

談判專家??垃圾[""""]

咪是但隨口呃著佢,話比你復職,

咁咪一天都搞掂哂囉, 談咁耐,得個空!
2010-08-24 8:13 am
15 hostages, 7 KIA, 6 WIA and 2 unharmed

Death Rate is 46.7%
Casualty rate is 86.7%

Ops is a failure

Bad Execution, bad outcome contributed to the doomed ops. We should be glad tho, as it could have been worse (i mean if i was the HT, i would have no problem to kill ALL THE HOSTAGE before i go down, the fact that you guys lost only 7 is already lucky......)

Bad Execution, half goes to the bad planning and the other half goes to the bad preperation. In a Hostage Situation, the first 2 hours is the key, you know, by then, if you can talk the HT out without moving in with force, any situation took longer than 2 hours is guranteed that some hostage will not make out alive.

See, the key to dissolve the situation depends on the "Tempo" of the operation. When the HT Took hostage, he got the tempo, you get that back by initiate the first move. The things is, "First move" came 10 hours later...That, the HT can contemplate the situation better and gain the upperhand, when the operation, eventually launched.

Of all the country, you would think Filipino would have or had enough Anti-terrorist or HT situation already, so you would think they know what they are doing. From my point of view, i think even they don't know what they are suppose to do.

The important key failure is when the Special Force operate on Bogus intel, move in after the bus driver escape and tell them all the hostages was killed. The thing is, SF doesn't even try to verify or establish the fact before move in is ridiculous, i mean, you don't tackle stuff like that......


Bad planning, bad perpration and bad execution seal the fate of the hostage. They (Filipino SF) would have a tough time to explain it to the HK government, well, hope these thing never happen again
參考: fromer US Army member, been in Hostage Rescue operation before
2010-08-24 7:43 am
呢班菲律賓垃圾簡直不知所謂,行事魯莽荒謬到人神共憤!小弟從來都未聽過有任何一支特種部隊竟然要用兩個鐘拯救人質!呢班垃圾無裝備、無訓練、無計劃、無預案、無勇氣、無機智,完全丟晒全球特種部隊既面。

拯救人質兵貴神速。名震天下既德國GSG9於1977年拯救人質時,只用7分鐘就將有人質安全救出,而且擊殺三個劫機犯及制服另外四個。但菲律賓呢班垃圾做錯晒所有野。點解爆門唔用定向炸藥﹖無炸藥點解唔用撞門錘或用消防員當用既電鋸或油壓剪﹖兇徒多次現身車門及車窗,竟然長達9個鐘都無神槍手將之擊倒!仲有班垃圾警察用既係咩武器﹖竟然只係軟弱無力既9mm手槍!連盾牌、衝鋒槍等基本裝備都欠奉,成班人都係垃圾!仲有呢班廢柴完全無訓練,佢地對拯救人質無知到連電視電影中常見既情節都唔識,既無計劃,又無偵察情報,胡亂衝入旅遊巴與匪徒博一舖,咁樣有咩理由唔死得人多!總之我地香港有7位同胞遇害枉死,實為全港之痛,願所有香港人為死難者默哀。亦希望各位以後要認清麻煩既是非之地,千萬不可再以身犯險。
2010-08-24 7:21 am
其實真系冇乜野辦法,妳估人地真系好想死多幾個人,跟住黎緊幾年菲律賓旅遊業一年差過一年咩...
同埋敵在暗,妳在明,個槍手真系要車上D人死,手指郁一郁就搞掂,但系D警察就吾可以亂甘郁,一黎佢自己會死,二黎激嬲個犯人一樣全車人都死,又要入到車,仲要打得死個人,失敗都預料之中..
不過D警隊既能力又真系幾廢...朝頭早10點幾日光日白系車外面都見到車入邊,做乜吾用所謂既"神槍手"速速搞掂,夜晚先黎行動,打死個人,連乘客都死左吾少,真系幾吾掂..

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