A question for Christians about the resurrection?

2010-05-10 1:38 pm
Can someone help me out with scripture because I'm very confused.

It says in 1 Thessalonians Chapter 4 that the dead in Christ will rise first. This is when the Lord descends from heaven. And it says in Revelation 20:5, "But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Now in Matthew 25:31-32 it says, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them from one another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats"

I have heard that this is refering to the Judgement day when both the righteous and the unrighteous are resurrected at the end of the thousand years and are judged. Those who have done good to the resurrection of life, those who have done evil to the resurrection of damnation (John 5:29)

So my question is, if the righteous who are resurrected after the thousand years inherit the kingdom of God then who are those who are resurrected at the second coming of Jesus? I'm so confused about this. I'm trying to put it all together and I can't. Please help. God bless

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2010-05-10 1:54 pm
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Only the righteous in Christ will rise at his second coming and rule with Him throughout the thousand years.
It is only the unrighteous who will be raised at the end of the thousand years to face judgment.
The judgment of the righteous at the end of the thousand years is a judgment of works for the purpose of receiving rewards. The righteous in Christ have already had their sins forgiven and are not guilty or under any condemnation.
2010-05-10 8:45 pm
You need to understand that the original Greek texts were written in all uncials (basically, capital Greek letters), without spaces, and without punctuation. Can you imagine what that looks like? Do some research and see for yourself. It's very interesting.

Anyway, here you go.

You stated,
"It says in 1 Thessalonians Chapter 4 that the dead in Christ will rise first."

Response:
Yes. Dead believers rise first with incorruptible, spiritual, glorified bodies, then those who are still alive are transformed "in the blink of an eye" into their incorruptible, spiritual, glorified bodies.


You stated,
And it says in Revelation 20:5, "But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Response:
This is how Revelation 20:4-5 should be read.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them, even the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.) This is the first resurrection.

So, the phrase "this is the first resurrection" is referring to those in v. 4.

Look at the parentheses. I inserted them where they should be. Like I said, original Greek text lacked all punctuation whatsoever. No periods, no commas, nada.
2010-05-10 8:41 pm
A very wise man I once knew said: When it comes to Jesus's return, I want to be on the Welcoming Committee, not the Planning Committee. Me, too.

I don't worry about the details of that stuff, because nowhere does my faith suggest that I need to correctly understand that kind of stuff to have an eternal relationship of love with the Creator.
2010-05-10 9:47 pm
You cannot put it all together because it is not the time to reveal. You can try to put all the things together by your rational thinking, but it may not the fact. The fact comes out gradually by different prophets in the future. The reason not to reveal is for the sake of people. If people know the sequence of moving age. The Anti-christ will take advantage. They will...........................
2010-05-10 9:37 pm
I'll write this as a summary, if there are some details that you need more info about send me a message:

1 Thessalonians refers to those who are spirit anointed and have a place in heaven (144 000 - Revelation14:1-4). Jesus started to reign in 1914 in heaven as king, these 144 000 anointed ones are his co-rulers, their being chosen started after his death in the first century, so such ones as Paul, Timothy, Silas, Barnabas etc are of these anointed ones along with others who were in the congregations then and remained faithful to God until they died. There was no need for them to be resurrected before 1914 because they wouldn't have anything to do in heaven. It was when Jesus started to reign that they gained this position of co ruler. This is the first resurrection.

Revelation 20:5 refers to the parentheses are used in NWT and Mo translations to help the reader to connect what follows the parenthetical statement with what precedes it (as someone already commented about the use of Greek, it refers to verse 4 - to the anointed ones). As clearly stated, it is not “the rest of the dead” who share in the first resurrection. That resurrection is for those who rule with Christ for the thousand years. Does this mean that no others of mankind will live during the thousand years except the ones who rule in heaven with Christ? No; because, if such were the case, it would mean that there was no one on behalf of whom they were serving as priests, and their domain would be a desolate globe.
Who, then, are “the rest of the dead”? They are all those of mankind who died as a result of Adamic sin and those who, though survivors of the great tribulation or those who may be born during the Millennium, need to be relieved of the death-dealing effects of such sin.—Compare Ephesians 2:1.
In what sense do they not “come to life” until the end of the thousand years? This does not mean their resurrection. This ‘coming to life’ involves much more than merely existing as humans. It means attaining to human perfection, free from all effects of Adamic sin. Notice that the reference to this in verse 5 occurs immediately after the preceding verse says that those who will be in heaven “came to life.” In their case it means life free from all effects of sin; they are even specially favored with immortality. (1 Cor. 15:54) For “the rest of the dead,” then, it must mean the fullness of life in human perfection.

So as you can see nobody is resurrected after the 1000 years. Up until then there will be a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous (Acts24:15) - those mentioned in John 5:29 who are resurrected to damnation are those who during the 1000 years choose not to be obedient to God - this is shown at the end of the 1000 years when Satan is released for a short time. It isn't foreordained that they will be this way, they will choose this themselves but this time they will be perfect, as Adam was and therefore not in a position to blame imperfection for their rebellion against God.

Matthew 25 - these verses apply after the great tribulation begins. Jesus will arrive in his glory with his angels and will sit on his judgment throne. Then, he will separate people. In what sense? He will render decisions based on what people did or did not do before that time.
We can compare this to the development of a legal process leading up to a court case. The evidence builds up over an extended period before the court rules and hands down a sentence. The evidence as to whether people now alive will turn out to be sheep or goats has been accumulating for a long time. And it is still coming in. But when Jesus sits on his throne, the case will be complete. He will be ready to render judgment. People will be separated either to everlasting cutting-off or to everlasting life.

I hope this helps you some.
2010-05-10 9:03 pm
Maybe you try and attend a Bible seminar on ESCATOLOGY. I'm not sure of the spelling above. I'm spelling as pronunced.
2010-05-10 8:44 pm
Dr David Jeremiah has a wonderful teaching on this subject...please go to this website for more info
http://www.davidjeremiah.org
2010-05-10 8:43 pm
Some interpret this by saying there are going to be more than one resurrection. This is where the rapture and all of that comes from. They would point out the difference between 1 Thess 4, Rev. 20 and Matt. 25 and say, "See, these are 3 different resurrections."

Prophecy is by its very nature fuzzy and no one can be sure of what a prophecy means until after it is fulfilled. For me the answer is not to worry about the specifics and go with what you know for sure. There is going to be some kind of resurrection and judgment sometime in the future so take care of things right now so you don't have to worry about the future.
2010-05-10 9:05 pm
"For this is what we tell YOU by Jehovah’s word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord shall in no way precede those who have fallen asleep [in death]; 16 because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first" (1 Tessalonians 4:15,16. Bible) :

This biblical passage refers to christians resurrected in the Heaven, the number of them is 144 000 :

"And I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a sound out of heaven as the sound of many waters and as the sound of loud thunder; and the sound that I heard was as of singers who accompany themselves on the harp playing on their harps. 3 And they are singing as if a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one was able to master that song but the hundred and forty-four thousand, who have been bought from the earth" (Revelation 14:1-3. Bible).

"When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left" (Matthew 25:31-33. Bible) :

This text refers to judgement which will happen just before the Great Tribulation ; Jesus-Christ will judge the actual humankind. The result of this judgment is written her :

"And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.” (Matthew 25:46. Bible).

Revelation 20:5 refers to other period of judgement ; the judgement of the period 1000 years, where the resurrected humankind on earth, will be judged (John 5:28,29 too).

The first resurrection refers to the complete 144000 group of christians in the heaven. And the second resurrection refers to the complete resurrected humankind judged in the end of the 1000 years period.

"And I saw a great white throne and the one seated on it. From before him the earth and the heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. 12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and scrolls were opened. But another scroll was opened; it is the scroll of life. And the dead were judged out of those things written in the scrolls according to their deeds. 13 And the sea gave up those dead in it, and death and Ha′des gave up those dead in them, and they were judged individually according to their deeds. 14 And death and Ha′des were hurled into the lake of fire. This means the second death, the lake of fire. 15 Furthermore, whoever was not found written in the book of life was hurled into the lake of fire" (Revelation 20:11-15. Bible).

What Is God’s Purpose for the Earth? : http://www.watchtower.org/e/bh/article_03.htm
2010-05-10 8:51 pm
hi
rooper
have you read the islamic version of the coming back of Jesus (peace be upon him)
you will come to know lot about the day of Resurrection and events prophesied.
and trust me the time is close. all the muslim scholars have stated that the Jesus (peace be upoon him) will be arrivein in a very near future as all the minor signs of his arrival have been completed and only the major ones are left.


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