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2008-11-24 12:00 am
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目前鬧得沸沸揚揚的三鹿奶粉事件,作為一個可能的知情者和懂點化學的人,我也來談談我的觀點:

1、媒體也好,廠家也好,國家質量監督也好,還是在忽悠大家,為什麼我敢這麼說,因為三聚氰氨根本不可能直接加入牛奶中,三聚氰氨的市場售價並不低,奶農不可能不計成本的提高濃度。

其次,三聚氰氨水溶性較差,要想完全溶于牛奶比較麻煩;那為什麼媒體,廠家,國家質量監督要異口同聲的說是不法之徒加入了三聚氰氨,其實就是為為了掩蓋一個更可怕的問題,那就是加入的其他毒性更大的東西,說穿了就是尿素,尿素作為一種便宜的農家化肥,真是經濟實惠的“好添加劑”。

2、為什麼要加尿素,因為各乳品公司收購鮮奶,測試的標準主要是奶的蛋白質含量,說穿了就是氮的含量,尿素作為一種最普遍的氮肥,由于它獨特的分子結構,記得好象是兩個氮分子配個什麼我忘了,氮的含量當然高了,混入奶中,提高氮濃度,價格自然也賣得高了;

3、尿素怎麼轉化為三聚氰氨的,很簡單,奶粉的生產過程就是將鮮奶放在封閉的環境高溫環境下,然後採取噴霧的方式直接轉化成粉狀就成了奶粉,而尿素在高溫下會產生變化,生成三聚氰氨,OK,有毒的奶粉就這樣生成了。

最後,我在談談我怎麼知道這些內幕的,前幾年,是01年還是02年,我記不太清楚了,在辦理一件帶黑社會性質的案件時,他們主要罪狀之一就是把持我市某區的牛奶收購市場,長期以次衝好,我們在辦案中就了解到,他們在牛奶中加入尿素、少量食用油,然後加大量水(良心好的加自來水,不好的就直接加池塘或者田裡的水),最後用專用的攪拌機進行攪拌,一批蛋白質濃度高的鮮奶誕生了,但最後幾個犯罪分子都翻供,說他們這種做法是普遍的,並不是他們發明的,後來我們專門去天友了解,確實如此,他們對牛奶收購中出現的這些問題根本沒有比較有效的檢測措施或者是因為收購站點太多,沒有精力和金錢來負擔這麼大的檢測開銷,所以對廣大奶農的行為基本採取的是默認的態度,而且據在天友的了解,這種現象在全國的乳制品行業是普遍的,只要存在向奶農收購牛奶,就普遍存在次類現象,所以三鹿事件的發生就是必然的,而且這次三鹿出了事,全國其他所有奶制品企業都保持沉默,沒有一家跳出來指責,什麼原因大家看了我的帖應該心裡有數了吧,最後弱弱的問大家一句,這樣的牛奶你們敢喝嗎?順便問句:國家的檢測機關當時幹什麼去了

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2008-11-24 12:33 am
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Milk power incident of three deer of causing a stir at present, whether know some people of chemistry as one possible insider, I come to talk about my view too.

1, the media is good too, the producer is good too, national quality surveillance is good too, everybody in the flicker, why I dare to say so , because three is when can not add the milk to gather cyanogen and ammonia directly, three gather market , cyanogen of ammonia price low , milk agricultural to disregard the thickness of improvement of the cost while being impossible.

Secondly , gather the cyanogen ammonia water dissolving worse three times , if you want to totally dissolve more troublesome to the milk; Why media, producer, whom national quality surveillance take unanimously say it is unprincipled fellow that has it three gather cyanogen ammonia to add, in fact for for conceal one terrible problem, that other toxicity heavy things that join, it is the urea to reveal, the urea, as a kind of cheap chemical fertilizer of peasant family, is really economical and practical " good additive ".

2, why add the urea, because all dairy products company purchases the fresh milk , the standard tested is mainly the content of protein of the milk , having revealed the content that is the nitrogen, the urea is as a kind of most general nitrogen, because of it unique molecular structure, is it seem it is two nitrogen molecule that mix piece what I forget to remember, certainly the content of the nitrogen is high, sneak into the milk , improve the thickness of nitrogen, the price is sold high too naturally ;



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2008-11-23 16:34:52 補充:
太多字,想要就sd e-mail 比我啦……
2008-11-24 2:27 am
1st, the media is also good, the factory is also good, the country quality surveillance is also good, in flickers everybody, why did I dare such saying that because three gathered the cyanamide not to be simply impossible to join in directly the milk, three gathered the cyanamide market selling price not to be low, the milk agriculture impossible not to count the cost to enhance the density.
Next, three paracyanogen ammonia water solubility is bad, if wants to dissolve completely in the milk is quite troublesome; Why media, the factory, does the country quality surveillance need to say with one voice was the badman joins three gathered the cyanamide, was actually for to cover a more fearful question, that was a other toxic bigger thing which joined, has exposed is the urea, the urea takes one kind of cheap peasant family chemical fertilizer, was really economical “the good chemical additive”.
2nd, why can add the urea, because various dairy products company purchases the fresh milk, the test standard is mainly the milk protein content, has exposed is the nitrogen content, the urea takes one kind of most universal nitrogenous fertilizer, as a result of its unique molecular structure, remembered that probably was two nitrogen members matches any me to forget, the nitrogen content has been certainly high, mixed in the milk, enhanced the nitrogen concentration, the price also sells naturally high;
3rd, how does the urea transform is three gathers the cyanamide, is very simple, the powdered milk production process is places the fresh milk the seal under the environment high temperature environment, then adopted the atomization the way to transform powdery directly has become the powdered milk, but the urea will have the change under the high temperature, produced three gathers the cyanamide, OK, the virulent powdered milk like this produced.

2008-11-23 18:30:19 補充:
太多字,想要就sd e-mail 比我啦
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2008-11-24 12:03 am
At present, much of the hubbub Sanlu milk powder incident, as a possible point of the chemical in the know and understand, I talk to my point of view:

1, or the media, or manufacturers, or State Administration of Quality Supervision, or Huyou you why I dare to say so, because melamine can not directly join the milk, the market price of melamine and Not low, dairy farmers can not raise the cost of concentration.

Second, the less water-soluble melamine, in order to completely dissolve in milk is too much trouble; Why, then, the media, manufacturers, the State Administration of Quality Supervision of the voice to say that by adding elements of the melamine, in order to cover up the fact that for a Even more frightening, adding that the greater the toxicity of other things, the truth is, urea, urea as a cheap farm fertilizer that is cost-effective "good additive."

2, why should we increase urea, as the dairy company to buy fresh milk, the test is the standard protein content of milk, put it bluntly, is the nitrogen content, urea as one of the most common nitrogen fertilizer, since it has the unique molecular structure, remember that good As the two nitrogen molecules equipped with what I forgot, of course, the high content of nitrogen, mixed with milk, increase the concentration of nitrogen, are also selling prices higher;

3, urea into how melamine, simply put, the formula is the production of fresh milk will be closed on the environmental conditions of high temperature, and then take the spray directly into the milk powder has become, and urea in the High temperature changes will produce melamine, OK, toxic formula generated this way.

2008-11-23 16:04:40 補充:
太多字


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