why in japan they push so many people into trains?

🧳 旅遊台 日本
2007-03-31 6:15 am
in peak hour traffic? obviously because there is many people but why dont they run more trains?

they look like cattle. its ridiculous.
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and you all call this a developed country?!

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is it because they miss the agricultral life due to the lack of land?

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not trying to be hateful comments, they need to do something about it. you say trains come in intervals for safety reasons, yet they cram so many people in one carriage the safety issue is irrelevant. bullet trains is irrelevant as they dont cram them in bullet trains all seating is organised like it should be on ALL trains.

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cramming so many people in a carriage is not safety issue is defeated.

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as tom b points out it also raises issues of sexual harrassment.

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joriental: there is nothing to change with the positives - that is why i concentrate on the negatives in this question. on a positive note yes the trains all come on time, there is minimal accidents (to all the people who said no accidents - please do your research). as i said there is nothing to change here to make the train system in japan better. the negatives (issues) are what needs to be looked at in order to make it a better train system than it already is. judging... i may well be but it is a system not a person. i am an engineer and this is what i do - i analyse systems and try and make them more efficient. yes they stand on bullet trains - cheaper fares too. but my point is they do not push and cram them in. i do not need to believe this as i have already seen it with my eyes. thanks to all responses has been good.

回答 (13)

2007-03-31 7:53 am
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The tube and train system in London is a total rubbish.
Daily occurrence of line closure, sudden cancellations, multiple signal failures, semi-permanent station closures, slack repairing jobs, and London Transport increases the fare by 10% or more every year.

New York Subways are not better than the one in London.
All parts of stations are dark, filthy and stinky, unfriendly to disable users, malfunction of facilities, incredibly rude staff (if there are any), unclear indication of directions and a huge amount of beggers on trains.

Japanese trains almost never delays, although they have to push overflowing passengers in. The stations are clean, never a broken thing, station staff are very helpful and knowledgeable.

So, how does your 'Developed' country look like now?


In addition :
> And no death accident in the train over 30 years. (by Joriental, below)
Is NOT true.
The accident occured in Amagasaki on 25th April 2005, killing 107 passengers and 555 injured.
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2007-03-31 10:40 am
In the morning and evening, all the train and subway come every 2 min.
There is no delay.

Think about it. They arrive "every 2 min" and "no delay" in Tokyo.
And all the trains are controlled by computer. If you mention safety issues, check out other countries subway system and accident rate.
Just accusing and being critic is too easy. But what they can do? Japanese are always trying to solve their problems and create better life.
Do you have any solution? clever boy huh?.


I repeat, trains arrive "every 2 min" and "no delay" in Tokyo.
Would you say it should be "1 min"? haha...Think about. 2 min - no delay is still marvelous fact.

People are wanting living in such busy place.
Government doesn't force this.
If you want slow life, you can live in rural side.

>>they dont cram them in bullet trains
>>all seating is organised like it should be on ALL trains.

hahaha..you don't know real life. Some passengers prefer to stand in the bullet trains, and you CAN. It's your choice.
Can you believe it? Ppl can stand in the bullet trains. Even a cup of water never spill out in the Japanese bullet train. Very quiet.
And no death accident in the train over 30 years.

You are only focusing on negative side.
參考: Matthew 7 1:“Judge not, that you be not judged. " 2: For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.
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2007-03-31 4:38 pm
There is a lot less need for pushers than there used to be. More people telecommute or are on flex time, and there is more capacity on the subway lines now as well. My former office used to have "core time" when we were all expected to be at our desks only between 10:00 and 15:00, so we could avoid the rush between 08:00-09:00. That's a good system if the careerist in you you can put off showing up at the office until 10:00, or coming in for 07:00 and then leaving at 15:00. There is no evening rush hour in Tokyo in any case-people trickle home.

If you are an early riser the trains before 08:00 are not so crowded. Taking an early train, and then have a java and a croissant at Starbucks or wherever before you hit the office is a good plan. My present commute sometimes involves shoveling, scraping a windshield when it's twenty below and driving through near zero visibility. At least in Tokyo my commute could not possibly end upside down in a ditch. But spring is here....
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2007-03-31 6:56 am
Japan has already good no. of local trains with 2 minutes frequency. If the frequency is redused by introducing more no. of trains, chances of accidents can not be ruled out.

It is realy a cultured and developed country. During peak hours majority of passengers are very smoothly accomodated in the arriving train and the remaining have to wait for 2 minutes only. Boarding the train by waiting passengers is smooth and fast without any push..No they do not loook like cattle
The trains are puntual and fast. Instead of increasing no of trains, maintaining their speed and puntuality is what defines advancement.
參考: Own experience
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2007-03-31 6:23 am
lots of people in a small space
參考: discovery channel
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2007-03-31 6:19 am
In order to keep the railways safe, they have to have a certain amount of distance between each train. Also, space is limited, so it would be difficult to expand the stations to add more trains to the same locations. It may not be the most comfortable way to get to work, but it is efficient enough.

(Why did you add irrelevant and hateful details? The fact that they even HAVE bullet trains and railway systems sets them above many other countries, as far as development is concerned.)

**additions: The post of "tom b" is a rant about whale hunting, not sexual harrassment.

At any rate, to address sexual harrassment, there are actually special trains for women only, if a woman feels more safe using these, or if using one will make travel more easy for her. These are not found everywhere, though. Women are speaking up against this more now, so even if a man tried to touch her, she or someone around them may say something.

Having to stand close to another person is not really a safety issue, but having trains close to one another is a big issue. Train wrecks are deadly. Standing very close to another person is awkward and uncomfortable, but you can survive. For people who do not want to go into a crowded train, they may still wait for the next one or plan their train travel around rush hour.
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2007-03-31 7:06 am
I have worked and visited in Japan many times. It is only during rush hour (and largely in Tokyo) where you get pushed onto trains. Japanese are usually in a rush, so they don't want to wait for the next train, even if it is coming in a few minutes. As you travel away from downtown, the numebrs get less and less. By Sagami station, for example, there aren't many people at all. If you avoid rush hour when eevrybody is trying to get to work or home, I have found things to be no different than in Washington, DC or New York City metros.
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2007-03-31 6:23 am
Take it as cultural difference. People don't want to wait the next one too...
👍 0 👎 1
2007-03-31 6:19 am
More YEN!
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2007-03-31 6:38 am
Japanese like crowding of people to one place.almost of them are eagerness...They always said,"better late than never"...
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2007-03-31 6:18 am
they do run more trains, and it's all full
their train is almost never late, and is always full
so either you get to play grab azz with people or you can walk home, and home is 10 miles away
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2007-03-31 9:47 am
Basically, they are just trying to accommodate as many people as possible on the trains to get them where they want to go. There are no two ways about it. Basic business: supply and demand. If people want to go somewhere, get them there as quickly as possible. It they are willing to be crowded like that, that is up to them. If you don't want to be, just wait until it is less crowded or take another mode of transportation.
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2007-03-31 6:19 am
there all in a hurry to go shopping for whale meat.are dolphin meat.no time for the next train to wait on.
they illegally hunt the whales,sea shepherd organization trys to stop them
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