基督徒自殺？ ( 想請對信仰認真的基督徒答 )

人生在世的確有不開心的事，但若我們只偏看不開心的一面，
而忘記了神創造的美好和衪賜下的恩典，我們便有不快樂的人生。

意思是要重新想清楚，究竟在事實上，人生是否如我們說的不開心？
世界之所以有很多困難事，其實都是「事在人為」，相輔相成。
聖經多處提到人要有喜樂，耶穌也叫我們將憂慮交給衪，
而且要我們經常感恩，後來我發現，常感恩的人會找到生活上的快樂，
留意多一點開心的事，這是真的，習慣了，你會變成開心的人。

至於基督徒自殺會不會上天堂，聖經其實沒有指明，
但可以當成殺人吧？不過這延伸一個情況，
基督徒都會患抑鬱：如果鑽牛角尖，又不與人分享，或不全面地理解聖經的時候。
如果基督徒遇上困難，這不是上不上天堂的問題，
而最好找人傾訴（或見輔導），將心中的疑難分享出來。
不論信主與否，自殺總是太消極又解決不到問題吧？

困難的日子是要我們經歷上帝
只要全心相信上帝就能道過
若自殺就即是不相信上帝可幫助你道過困苦
這真的不是上不上天堂的問題，而是信心的問題
另回答者說得好，
不論信主與否，自殺總是太消極又解決不到問題吧？

一）人生在世要面對那麼多困難 那麼多不開心
神不是應該會明白我們 不想我們受苦嗎？
神比每個人都有自由意志。例如：係聖經入面寫到，基督徒係可以飲酒，但係，唔可以飲醉酒。醉酒揸車後果會係點，大家好清楚知道。最近有位基督徒女歌手，做左未婚媽媽。o尼位歌手都比好多人講，都好唔開心。o尼d係未神叫佢咁做呀？o尼d未叫做自由意志o羅！！神係創世紀講明，神做每一樣人和事物都係美好。問題係由人而來。 二） 如果基督徒自殺，會唔會上唔到天堂架？
聖經話不可傷自已身體，自殺，都應該唔得。會唔會上唔到天堂架？o尼個問題100%應該無人會答到你，點解咁講，上唔上到天家，唔係你我他話到事，而係神話事。

I'm glad to attempt this reply. I'm not well equipped with this kind of knowledge, but I'll still try my best.

Let me try the issue of suicide first.

The issue of gaining access to heaven is related to whether a person has been saved. So, if a person believes that s/he is a sinner, and Jesus once came to the world to redeem us from death by cruxification and resurrection, s/he is saved.

Actually, the issue of persons who commit suicide is similar to that of persons who deny belief in Jesus at the dying moment. Remember, after getting saved, a Christian is deemed to be "righteous" in God's eyes not because s/he is spotless in behaviour, but his/her sins have been cleansed by Jesus's precious blood. Consequently, the Christians have gained new lives, and earned a right to the Heaven. Even a Christian chooses to deny Jesus at the dying moment or commit suicide, the status won't be affected. NEVERTHELESS, don't forget that even God's sons and daughters will be judged when they see Him. Although we don't actually know how God actually rewards or punishes His sons and daughters, it is sure that none of them would be deprived of the co-heir status.

But, how about Judas the Iscariot? He confessed and regretted that he was wrong for handing Jesus to the Jews that hated Him, and then he hanged himself. But why did Jesus say the person (Jesus meant Judas) who betrayed Him is the one who doomed to destruction (refer John 17:12)? Don't forget, no person was a Christian before Jesus's cruxification except the robber who confessed. In other words, no one except the confessing robber prayed in Jesus's name for pardon. So, Judas's sins (not specified to his betrayal) haven't been cleansed.

About the issue that "God shouldn't let us suffer", I disagree. God's will is always good (refer Matthew 11:26 and Luke 10:21). Even sufferings for Christians happen in God's permission. Remember, it's permission, not His will. God doesn't create sufferings for us, but He permits the sufferings happen. You should have heard of the proverb "no pain, no gain". No one can guarantee that a person would become more mature after a suffering, but it's still possible. More importantly, no one suffers more than what Jesus suffered. He was born in animals' filthy dwellings, raised in a family with deprived socio-economic status, not welcomed by his neighbour villagers, hated by most of the Jews, betrayed by His own discipline (though he knew it and gave chances to him), and mocked by almost all the people. However, it doesn't mean that Jesus experienced every kind of sufferings because He didn't get married, and He wasn't either a woman or an old person. Even Jesus once suffered, how can any Christian be an exception?

Lastly, about the reason for creating mankind, Chapter 1 of Genesis told us that God created us in His image (not His appearance but His personalities), and we're His representatives to manage the world. We're all special in His eyes. I admit that I can't reply further if you ask "why did God create the world?". Let's see if He will give us a reply by revelation.

I hope you find my interpretation useful.

我想作一點補充. 其實猶大是不會上天堂. 雖然在聖經裡有提到他有後悔. 但他沒有真正的信主(係需要悔改+接受). 而他只是後悔他出賣了耶穌. 其實這裡也有另一個意思, 雖然跟隨了耶穌三年的猶大到最後都沒有接受主, 但耶穌是一直給他機會, 以致仍然願意留他在身邊作門徒. 只是到最後他沒有揀選而已.

一個正常的基督徒是因為基督的愛而珍惜並熱愛生命. 雖然也真是有一些自殺的個案, 我們也不知道他們的將來如何. 就正如耶穌說, 那與我們何干呢. 只要好好珍惜我們活在地上的日子吧.

在基督教信仰黎講,
神是會明白人的痛苦的,
因為神曾經親自降臨呢個世界,
從一降世, 就要面對迫害, 及至三十歲出來傳道,
受盡排斥, 嘲諷, 到最後受鞭打, 被釘受死~,
難道這些不會比人痛苦嗎??
他真的不明白嗎?

有時, 有人會說 困難是神的試鍊,
除了試鍊, 有時候是人自己一手造成的,
有時候只是人把價值觀放在使自己苦腦的地方,
例如 : 物質的追求, 認為生活有一定的水準才算得上可以,
因此有時會用很多的時間在賺錢方面, 因而家庭關係失去平衡,
那種苦又是神給人的嗎??

既然是生存在世上, 就當勇敢地面對一切,
神造人出來不是要苦待他們,
相反地, 祂希望總有一日人可以重歸神的國度,

至於問到:如果基督徒自殺，會唔會上唔到天堂架？
不能給你一個正確的答案, 因為我不是神,
然而, 但凡重新得救的基督徒都當明白生命是神給予的,
神既從罪裡拯救了人的靈魂,
人郤因為自己的某些原因, 放棄在世上的生命,
我想, 要是我的話, 我會沒有顏面去面對賜我生命的救主,
因為祂既是信徒生命的主,
一個真正認識主的信徒又有甚麼權力去結束自己的生命呢??

2006-12-21 13:59:14 補充：
若果遇到問題或困苦的時候, 不妨找牧師, 傳道人或幾個弟兄姊妹談談, 可能會發現正在困苦之中, 或者曾經困苦的人又怎會是獨自一人, 人去面對困難不會是孤單隻身的, 在困苦中找尋神的心意和恩典, 總比白白的犧牲來得有價值呢~更何況要知困難過後, 會是一片光明呢?

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2006-12-21 13:50:03 補充：
一個真正認識主的信徒又有甚麼權力去結束自己的生命呢??沒錯!!如果人知道生命的真正價值和意義是甚麼,他們絕不會輕易放棄自己的生命,因為生命是神所賜的,是何等既寶貴!每一刻都是神所賜予的.當人真的能享受生命的話..他一定會感謝創造他生命氣息的神~

神要造我們出來要我們受苦,不開心是因為祂深知人是最有智慧的受造物[人甚至是高天使一等的]
神決定把一個世界讓人看守,因神信人有足夠智慧的…但神為免天使變惡魔一事發生在人身上,於是,把誘惑留在地上.
上面人兄is wrong!!!
我們追求的是像天國一樣的世界!!!! [烏托邦]
不分你我, 世界變得自由愉悅…
不分地域或膚色，不分族類與方言!!!!
連死亡也快樂,不痛也不辛苦…
如果自殺，唔會上天堂架….和殺人冇分別!!!!
~甚至是罪加一等!!!!

2006-12-21 13:32:18 補充：
自殺有例外的...十二宗徙之一,猶達斯,在出賣耶穌後,為續罪自殺了...但他上了天堂,因他是為了續罪,且他也知錯了...

如果人生全部都係開心快樂既,咁呢個世界幾咁和平,乜事都冇啦
如果要係神學黎講..我地就要怪當時既阿當同阿娃啦
如果自殺係唔可以上天堂~
雖然我唔係基督徒,不過我都想講下我既心聲~
如果個個都開心,呢個世界冇罪惡..咁police..軍人..咁咪失業囉
如果呢個世界個個都冇困難,發晒達,咁邊個黎打工??d錢有咩用??
如果呢個世界冇人受苦,咁邊到會有人知甜係咩黎??
雖然我唔知點解我地會生存係呢個世上,不過我信呢d係天意,可能天意就係神既意思~