How to deal with people here?

2006-12-20 12:21 am
I was surprised (in a bad way) when I first found out that there are people who have so much misunderstanding and even hate toward God, Christianity and Christians so whenever I see a question that I think I am capable of answering, I take it seriously and answer them.
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Yet, I have a feeling that some people here are not trying to learn and understand more about God, Christianity, church, or Christians, there are here just to attack or say stuff or being destructive... simply not meant to have a meaningful or productive conversation or dialogue.

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So, what kind of attitude should we use towards questions that are not meant to be constructive? Should we disregard them so just let people say anything they want?

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Should we even be involved in a situation like that (where it will lead to anger)? How exactly are we supposed to handle these questions or even the people?

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To: Tom U assume no one deserves spiritual death. Christianity is the exact opposite. Everyone will die eventually; only God is able to save you from spiritual dying. Jesus was born not to 對付人, He was here to save 信他的人. (John 3:16) Guess u really need to understand better.

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RE: 單手是拍不響的,我越來越明白d人點解唔鍾意基督教,連我現在都系. WHY? Please tell me what you have understood.

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To: paton You still haven't answered me how to handle situation where people post questions that meant to be destructive and offensive. And I think after we die, we will see if what I believe in is right. If it isn't, what does it matter? I died anyways.

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bata, thanks for the input. I found out that there were two very similar questions after I posted this question up so sorry for the duplications.

回答 (6)

2006-12-20 1:02 am
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To be honest these kind of people (misunderstanding things etc) are everywhere

but theres one thing that i have to remember (myself) is that I WAS ONE OF THESE PEOPLE ONCE

this is why i kept going on and trying to clear their doubts as they are asking all these questions.

Jesus never ever ignored the people that lived in his time. He always explained everything to them, no matter how those people reacted.
This is why i wish to try to do the same to the others, just that one day i hope they will eventually understand and have to tickets to heaven.

Good luck, hope you can fight for justice and the truth with all of us!!
thank you for reading, hope to see u in heaven some day!!!

2006-12-19 23:51:28 補充:
唔係好多時間,只係想快快脆脆講一個point香港法律有終生監禁我想請問: 香港係咪一個可怕既社會? 係咪好殘暴?我第一個話: 唔係不過可能下面呢位人兄會唔同意呢唔知喎~
2006-12-27 9:37 am
Maggie ^-^

deal with people here??

Please deal with Christian all in the world first (especial HK Christian)!
2006-12-27 3:23 am
Windy : your English is terrible !
2006-12-25 11:07 am
之前有人問過這個問題,所以我直接paste我的見解好了。

老實說我有時也不明為何他們要專程走進來問一些他們根本就不是想找答案的問題,但幸好這也只是社會中的一少部份人,其他人不會亳無理由不斷攻擊人的。我不知道他們是否曾經被某些"基督教徒"傷害過所以要日以繼夜不斷攻擊其他基督徒發洩。其實反基人仕當中我所認識的朋友也很有理性,只要你有道理他們還是會信的,當然也有一部分(極端反基人仕)己經失去理性,那就另作別話了。

我認為應用的態度是敬而遠之,因為他們真正想找的不是答案,而是希望在你寫一大段文章回應他們後好在當中再找出數個中文錯字或語法錯誤等等,然後複製下來再貼上另一處重新攻擊你,然後你愈在他們身上花時間他們就越高興(我實在不明白他們的心理)。我們能夠做的實在只有為他們代禱,就如主耶穌所說:

要愛你們的仇敵,為迫害你們的禱告。

如果單愛那些愛你們的人,那有甚麼好處呢?罪人也愛那些愛他們的人。如果只善待那些善待你們的人,那有甚麼好處呢?

倘若你有留意的話,你會發覺我們當中極大部分基督徒知道他們問問題的背後目的後己不再回答他們了(他們大部分收到的回覆也是由其他反基人仕作答,所以其實對我們是沒有影響的,而當中願意不斷嘗試解答他們「問題」的基督徒實在很有愛心,這是我很欣賞的,你們所付出的,神也知道的),其實我們實在不用介意他們每日不停地反基督教的。難道他們的不信就會廢棄上帝的信實嗎?著實不會。相反,我們應該更好地利用更多時間回答真正想尋找真理的人,因為只要我們看看問題,基本來說己能知道問問題者是為了攻擊還是想更加理解真理,我們只要答那些想尋求真理的人就己經很足夠了。要是反基人仕繼續攻擊迫害基督徒,就由他們喜歡吧,主耶穌早己預言會有這樣的人了,所以他們這樣做反而會更證明神的信實。若沒有這種人,我們應反覺得奇怪才是。

每次我看見他們就會想起主耶穌的話:

約 15:18 「世人若恨你們,你們知道(或作:該知道),恨你們以先已經恨我了。 你們若屬世界,世界必愛屬自己的;只因你們不屬世界,乃是我從世界中揀選了你們,所以世界就恨你們。 」

我一開始時也嘗試盡我所能答他們,但得到的是不斷的攻擊,現在我唯一能夠做的只有為他們禱告。

主耶穌也說:

要愛你們的仇敵,為迫害你們的禱告。

如果單愛那些愛你們的人,那有甚麼好處呢?罪人也愛那些愛他們的人。如果只善待那些善待你們的人,那有甚麼好處呢?

有時我看見他們的問題會想起主耶穌那時不斷被人取笑,「從十字架上下來吧!」 祭司長和文士也是這樣戲弄他,彼此說:「他救了別人,不能救自己。」 又或:「我們想你行個神蹟給我們看看!」

我留在這裏的原因主要是為這裏所受的逼迫大,我不是變態,而是不斷的逼迫能試練我們的屬靈程度,我們要學習主的樣式,每次他們逼迫我們,也是我們屬靈程度的一個試金石。

就如經上所記: 「無故恨我的,比我頭髮還多;無理與我為仇、要把我剪除的,甚為強盛。我沒有搶奪的,要叫我償還。」 (詩 69:4) 我相信很難找到一個地方這樣受到撒但攻擊,那些人在無受任何基督徒攻擊底下自己主動找到這裏來不斷攻擊,這實在是我不能理解的事。

我相信撒但不斷攻擊這裏一定是有原因的,可能這裏不信的人多,能救的人也多。別處地方的基督徒討論區大部分也是一些已信的人,他們自會找比這裏更好的討論區尋找真理。那些地方一定會有好的基督徒幫助他們,相反看看這裏卻不斷被撒但攻擊(我深信是撒但所作的,因為我們沒有得罪任何人,但他們卻主動找上來待我們似罪犯一樣,我不相信一個正常人會這麼做),我怕真的有尋求真理的人找上來沒有人能幫助他們,所以只好留在這裏。

我愛那些人,但我回答他們又怕會把他們絆倒了,所以只好選擇不答,但我又不願放棄任何一個靈魂,所以只好為他們代禱。能讓他們回轉不是人力範圍所能做的事,只好倚靠聖靈作工了。

2006-12-26 17:53:17 補充:
Maggie,妳看不到之前那篇是很正常的。最近這裏受到"洗版"的情況越趨嚴重呢 ~
2006-12-22 9:03 pm
So happy to see a such positive question here.

Yes, I did answer some of the questions raised from attackers with my sincere and seriousness but some of them do not really want to learn. The only thing they do is to against, sneer, and prejudge us.

From my point of view, such a question, acutally I have no need to give an answer to them especially the discriminating wording appeared in some of the titles such as "Black cover book (Christians may call them to Bible) bla bla bla.....". Such a prejudge indicating that person shows no motivation to learn more about the Christianity. Oppositely, some of them are expert in Bible, they were to be a christian in the past but because the time pass, they could not find something they expected. For example they may think that God is love but why there are so much racial extermination appeared in the Bible. Also the contradiction appear everywhere in it. Finally they quit from church and to be a anti-Christ person. They have the exact answers in their mind and it is absolutely hard for us to change them. That is a reason for not answering them but I finally do answer them because of the prevention of misleading to the non-believers.

Moreover, some of them give out the speech without proof and lack of steps. They only quoted the conclusion such as "One hand is unable to make sound, I am understanding why people don't like Chriatianity...bla bla bla "... That is downright meaningless at all, as it can't bring us to have a deep discussion to understand to each other clearly.

For the attackers, the most questions they raised is the commiseration of God. They think God is not a such perfect God because He used water to kill, and take use of the Israeli to invade others. And the laws in the Old Testament are not humanistic and thoroughly non-sense. In fact, I do not the deny the feeling for those non-believers, and I partly agree that but I only say that we are not the God, God use his way to do his business. Stupid person like me, never understand it. Last but not the least, I want to give a word to those attackers "Don't give out the final judgement until you see the whole picture". Let me use one story to explain this.

*****

There was a bear and trapped in a snare. A person passed around it. He wanted to help and wanna get it out of there.

From the point of view of the bear, there was a person apporching and it should be dangerous and raised its unfriendly signal. Later, that person discovered that there was not enough room for him to dig bigger of the exit, so he had to push the bear into the deeper position.

From the point of view of the bear, that person is killing and he was not helping at all. So the bear reacted fiercely and to roar desperately. As that person took no method to calm the bear down, so he took out his stun gun(麻醉槍) and point at the bear.

From the point of view of the bear, a gun pointed to me, I must be dead,,,, I must be dead,,,,,,,, after the bear got a shock, it became sleepy. At that time, that person could do his business smoothly and finally the bear was saved.

*****

To conclude, don't give out the final judgement until you see the whole picture.

Life is complicated, incidents are complicated too. How do you just state that the God is bad just based on some chapters in the Bible??? From the point of view of human, God may not do perfectly because we may not understand.

Although christian also do not have the whole picture too, we don't know the final result as well. But we do trust in God, the love of God is proved by Jesus who was dead on the Crucifix and we trust He will arrange the best for each people. God do never tell lie in the Bible. That is what we are believing.

2006-12-26 21:13:22 補充:
辯論,是為著未信者/願意探求真理者而辯,不是為著敵擋者而辯。
God bless all of you.
2006-12-20 6:05 am
兩位小妹妹啊!為什麼你們到現在還那麼冥頑不靈呢.

其實,你們現在和"耶和華"的關係,在我來看,就好像是一個含春少女熱戀著
她的男朋友一樣,充满傾慕,欣賞,有些嚴重的更會迷戀.就算她們的男朋友
實際上如何下流賤格.她們也不會看見,又或看見了也當作看不見,又或者想出
種種理由和借口來"解釋"一番,當然,這番"解釋"不是說給人們聽的,而是說
給自己聽的,好讓自己的心好過一點.

但為什麼她們會有這樣的表現呢,因為她們對對方充滿了"希盼",盼望她們結婚,
盼望照顧她們一生一世,盼望帶她們上"天堂".這一切一切當然會有實現的可能,
但現在最主要的還只是她們心識所營造出來的感覺,除此之外別無其他.

講真"耶和華"和"男朋友"一樣,都不是所謂的全能和完美.看看"聖經中的描述,
可知"耶和華"也有殺人殺無罪嬰孩的殘忍猜忌的一面,絕不是她們所想的那麼
好(當然基督徒會作另一番解釋,為上帝開脫.又如基督徒說上帝是神,神之所作
又豈能和人相比,這真和少女向她的父母說她男友不像其他出面的男人那樣,
如出一徹.)

當然,"耶和華"和"男朋友"不同,後者是可被驗證的.可能結緍之後,才發現對方
原來是那麼下流下賤無用.而前者永永遠遠只是個心識想出來的東西,没有證
實的方法.但其實,只要用理性看從聖經中的內容,便知上帝的另一面,可能上帝
只不過是古老的希伯萊祭司所杜撰出來,嚇嚇人民的方便統治手段,又或者只是
現在一些人所壞疑的,"耶和華"不過是外太空來的生物呢.


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